-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 7/1/01 1:01:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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<< I believe it, but what would happen if we moved to abolish the government?
Martial law. Tienneman Square. The Holocaust.>>
We don't need to abolish government, just hold it to the Constitution,
especially the tenth amendment.
<< > Thankyou for posting this Prudy. It's obvious that most Americans no
> longer believe in, or are even familiar with, these principles. The
> public schools (government indoctrination centers) and the mass media
> have done a thorough job of erasing these beliefs from the public mind.
> There is a story about old Ben Franklin emerging from the Constitutional
> Convention after the signing. A woman called out to him: "What form of
> government have you given us?" He answered: "A Republic....if you can
> keep it." We haven't. It's gone.
Question is...what comes next? What is the segue going to be? I wonder if
we're heading to a time of a major abolishment of the few remaining freedoms
we have. I'm thinking we are.>>
I'm thinking the very same thing.
<< It's one of those rock bottom things, kind
of like alcoholics having to hit "rock bottom" before they can see the light
and turn things around. Probably society will have to hit rock bottom
before the cat is cornered and it starts hissing and fighting. It's just a
matter of compromises. There is a power in place that wants more and more
control, so lawyers battle it out in court and a compromise takes place.
Later there is another compromise as someone, somewhere wants more control,
so we compromise again, each time giving up a little more freedom.>>
Somehow, we need to turn that compromising around and head it in the opposite
direction. How you do that I don't know. I tend to doubt that it can be
turned. Perhaps the only way to regain our Republic is to do it the way the
founding fathers did it ... maybe that's why this government is hell bent on
abolishing weapons for common people.
<< The sad part is that there is little I can do about it by myself. There is
little we can do, even collectively, as members of this mailing list because
we're really not mainstreamers. Mainstreamers are so strapped for cash that
mom and dad have to work, the kids are in daycare and everyone is so
exhausted by the time they come home that all they can manage to do is plop
down in front of the TV to absorb a few hours of propaganda before falling
asleep and repeating the same thing until the weekend when some of the
people get drunk, some of the people have sex and the rest just lay around
and recuperate from the hell of the weekdays.>>
I'm one of those mainstreamers you are talking about. I joined this list
because a friend of mine signed off after being here four years. He posted
many interesting articles from this list at work and got a couple dozen of us
interested in "politics."
He didn't have any answers, nor did he find any one complete answer on this
list, but he did get many people (at work) interested. After being here a
couple of weeks now, I can see why he got so frustrated. Obviously all the
thirty or so people on this list care about what is happening in this country
and to the world, but even these thirty people can't seem to be unified in
their thinking, so how do you get tens of millions of people to unify against
the government/powerful corporations? There seems to be too much pettiness
rather than serious discussion and no conclusions. Too much right-left,
rich-poor, straight-gay, black-white-brown-etc, liberal-conservative, gun
rights Vs gun confiscation, and a thousand other means of dividing people so
they won't organize a united front and members of this list are just as
susceptible to these same divisions. What are the answers?
Tito
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