On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Robert Bradshaw
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Ondrej Certik <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Robert Bradshaw
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Stefan Behnel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Stefan Behnel, 16.11.2010 12:46:
>>>>> when I try to hg push to cython-devel, I keep getting this:
>>>>>
>>>>> """
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> SyntaxError: Error expanding 'sessionvars%urlparameter'
>>>>> """
>>>>>
>>>>> Trac seems to be broken, too. Has anything changed on the Cython VM since
>>>>> yesterday that could trigger this?
>>>>
>>>> hg is back to normal since William cleaned up the disk space. trac is still
>>>> down, it seems.
>>>>
>>>> Robert, since you set up most of the infrastructure (IIRC), could you take
>>>> an attempt at the migration to boxen?
>>>
>>> So, I've been thinking about this, and one of the reasons we're using
>>> the current setup is that it requires very little administration from
>>> me, as I am essentially leaching of the sagemath.org infrastructure.
>>> Moving things to boxen would be a bit more administration on our part,
>>> but still not too bad, and I know William is a happy enough Cython
>>> user to be fine with continuing to host us :). However, I'm wondering
>>> if this would be a ripe occasion to making the leap to something like
>>> http://code.google.com. Currently, our infrastructure consists of
>>>
>>> 1. The web site
>>> 2. Trac
>>> 3. Wiki
>>> 4. Repositories
>>> 5. Buildbot
>>> 6. Mailing lists
>>>
>>> Currently we're hosting 1-5, and 6 is being hosted by codespeak.net
>>> (for cython-dev) and google (for cython-users). I think it may be
>>> worth considering moving 2-4 elsewhere, as there is little loss and
>>> they are the higher-maintenance (from an administrative point of view)
>>> items, and features such as code review tools would be nice to have as
>>> well. Trying to use launchpad was painful, so this decision shouldn't
>>> be taken lightly, but I think we can do better. Of course
>>> code.google.com isn't the only option, but even trying to be unbiased
>>> about it I think it's a very good option, and
>>> http://www.dataliberation.org/google/code-project-hosting factors into
>>> it as well.
>>>
>>> In terms of the website itself, I think we should keep hosting that
>>> (for maximum flexibility, and it's easy to administer), and there
>>> isn't much of an option for 5 (though steps should be taken to reduce
>>> its load).
>>
>> Robert has asked me to reply what I think about google code and
>> github, since sympy has used google code since the beginning, e.g.
>> last couple years, so I wrote this blog post about comparing Google
>> Code and GitHub:
>>
>> http://ondrejcertik.blogspot.com/2010/11/google-code-vs-github-for-hosting.html
>
> Thanks! To clarify, you never used google's distributed module of push
> and pull requests? (hg, not git) Granted, I think github (and perhaps

I never used it, because we switched to git (from mercurial) before
they implemented it (for mercurial).

> because of git) gets this done smoother. What are the chances they'll
> fix their issue tracker? :(

I think quite high, the main question is when, and that I don't know.
Just to clarify, it's not *that* bad, for example we use it quite
extensively here:

https://github.com/hpfem/hermes/issues
https://github.com/hpfem/femhub/issues

so it's usable, but obviously, for someone coming from Google Code,
it's a step back.

Ondrej
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