On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:35:59 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:

> 今まで五ヶ月日本にすんでいます、でも香田さんと合ったことがありません。
> いつ私たちは 日本のTeXのかいぎをしますか。

I welcome you at any time but I'm a bit busy to visit
your location.
Strange enough, there is no Japan TUG so it is very rare
to see a conference on TeX (but it was held in the last year).

> On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
>> There is a project called ptexlive in Japan which extends
>> many standards TeX tools (like updmap etc.) to support fonts 
>> for pTeX, which implys one can't use updmap for pTeX fonts.
> 
> Links? Is there any chance to *include* stuff relevant into TeX Live
> itself?

ptexlive:
http://tutimura.ath.cx/ptexlive/ (in Japanese)
http://tutimura.ath.cx/ptexlive/?ptexenc%2FDetails
(mainly in English but only on core component of ptexlive)

and also upTeX (closely related to ptexlive):
http://homepage3.nifty.com/ttk/comp/tex/uptex_en.html
(in English)

In fact a main aim of ptexlive is
"modify/extend pTeX so that it is included in TeX Live"

IMHO, it works very fine but is yet in a very alpha (or beta) 
status to be included in TeX Live.

> Speaking now as one of the TeX Live team (not Debian), why should all
> this be outside of TeX Live done? Is it necessary to split all that?
> 
> Can't we work on integrating this, or are there too many discrepancies?
> I offer my help and support in integrating that, I can commit to 
> our subversion repositories, and adjust tlmgr to things that are
> needed.

It is difficult for me to answer the question.  What I can say is 
ptexlive distribution for TeX Live 2009 is released only recently.
I guess there are many discrepancies.

> BTW, I recently had quite some interesting discsussion with my professor
> about Mathematical typesetting in Japanese books. Very interesting and
> funny. It started when Simon Singh's Fermat's Last Theorem in Japanese
> dropped into my hands, which is written in book style (right to left,
> top to bottom) with formulas mixed into it. Very interestings.

It is a common style of mathematical book in Japan and
pTeX works very comfortably in such situation.
In Japan, to output such style is not interesting nor funny 
but indispensable capability for TeX engines.

This is the raison d'etre of pTeX.
(uhhh, I don't know how to input French characters in Emacs)

Best regards,                   2010-3-12(Fri)

-- 
 Debian Developer - much more I18N of Debian
 Atsuhito Kohda <kohda AT debian.org>
 Department of Math., Univ. of Tokushima

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