sorry, here's proper link to the presentation:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_kTBIZLoT3VOGOFgTqjkQ3E0e4o_esV71RNzo4JuQI0/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000#slide=id.ge4adadaf_1_645

s.


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Stanislav Bocinec <sva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the nice comparison. I never realized Debian main consists of
> so many packages, i always considered default ubuntu intallation not so
> secure due to universe repo enabled by default..
>
> Here is one interesting presentation about Ubuntu trusty 14.04 security
> features:
> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/ubuntu-1404-lts-security-for-human.html
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Lupe Christoph <l...@lupe-christoph.de>wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, 2014-05-18 at 14:46:21 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>>
>> > Ubuntu only provides security support for the "main" and "restricted"
>> > archive sections:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Official_Support
>> > But since the "universe" section is enabled by default, you'll end up
>> > with a lot of unpatched security vulnerabilities on Ubuntu systems.
>>
>> That must be why there are only 535 update packages for Trusty's Universe
>> (for 35524 packages) and 1371 updates for Precise's 29406 packages...
>>
>> I admit that the numbers for multiverse are much lower (27 and 1), so
>> your point is valid as soon as you enable the multiverse (672 and 741
>> packages). I guess you wouldn't get a very capable Ubuntu system if you
>> disabled the Universe.
>>
>> Here is a table:
>>
>> Relase  | Section    | Packages | Security Updates
>> Precise | Main       |     8076 | 5407
>> Precise | Universe   |    29406 | 1371
>> Precise | Multiverse |      672 | 73
>> Trusty  | Main       |     8566 | 526
>> Trusty  | Universe   |    35524 | 266
>> Trusty  | Multiverse |      741 | 27
>>
>> Numbers for Wheezy and Squeeze:
>>
>> Relase  | Section  | Packages | Security Updates
>> Wheezy  | Main     |    35944 | 1193
>> Wheezy  | Non-free |      475 | 0
>> Wheezy  | Contrib  |      210 | 0
>> Squeeze | Main     |    28212 | 1777
>> Squeeze | Non-free |      403 | 0
>> Squeeze | Contrib  |      187 | 1
>>
>> So by sheer numbers Ubuntu has the better security. But I'm the first to
>> admit that those numbers don't mean a lot except that somebody was
>> really busy building packages...
>>
>> Lupe Christoph
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