If we push it to Sept 1 freeze, I'll personally spend a lot of time testing.

What can I do to help convince the Jun1 folks that Sept1 is acceptable?



On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Ben Bromhead <b...@instaclustr.com> wrote:

> I would also suggest if you can't commit to June 2 due to timing or feature
> set. If you could provide the absolute minimum date / features that would
> let you commit to testing, that would be useful.
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:49 PM Ben Bromhead <b...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
>
> > We (Instaclustr) are also happy to get started testing. Including
> > (internal to Instaclustr) production workloads.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:45 PM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> To be clear, more who is willing to commit to testing should we go this
> >> route.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 7:41 AM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ok. So who's willing to test 4.0 on June 2nd? Let's start a sign up.
> >> >
> >> > We (tlp) will put some resources on this via going through some canned
> >> > scenarios we have internally. We aren't in a position to test data
> >> validity
> >> > (yet) but we can do a lot around cluster behavior.
> >> >
> >> > Who else has specific stuff they are willing to do? Even if it's just
> >> > tee'ing prod traffic, that would be hugely valuable.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:15 AM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It sounds to me (please correct me if I'm wrong) like Jeff is
> arguing
> >> >> that
> >> >> > releasing 4.0 in 2 months isn't worth the effort of evaluating it,
> >> >> because
> >> >> > it's a big task and there's not enough stuff in 4.0 to make it
> >> >> worthwhile.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> More like "not enough stuff in 4.0 to make it worthwhile for the
> >> people I
> >> >> personally know to be willing and able to find the weird bugs".
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > If that is the case, I'm not quite sure how increasing the surface
> >> area
> >> >> of
> >> >> > changed code which needs to be vetted is going to make the process
> >> any
> >> >> > easier.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It changes the interest level of at least some of the people able to
> >> >> properly test it from "not willing" to "willing".
> >> >>
> >> >> Totally possible that there exist people who are willing and able to
> >> find
> >> >> and fix those bugs, who just haven't committed to it in this thread.
> >> >> That's
> >> >> probably why Sankalp keeps asking who's actually willing to do the
> >> testing
> >> >> on June 2 - if nobody's going to commit to doing real testing on June
> >> 2,
> >> >> all we're doing is adding inconvenience to those of us who'd be
> >> willing to
> >> >> do it later in the year.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
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