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Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>:

So what... you cannot do worse than
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png


On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <adam.ret...@googlemail.com> wrote:

I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.

On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
<stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <adam.ret...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
>> coat of arms?
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <roy.ly...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> >> upwards and to the right.  Its a "moving up and to the future"
instead
>> of
>> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling.  If it looks good,
perhaps
>> it
>> >> can be a #15...
>> >>
>> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> called
>> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >
>> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
>> >> >context:
>> >> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> ><stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
than
>> >> >>just
>> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> cases I
>> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
both
>> >> >>from
>> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
another
>> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need
to
>> ask
>> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
web...
>> if
>> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
that
>> >> >>type
>> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original...
so
>> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> popular
>> >> >>we
>> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
vote
>> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
contributions
>> as
>> >> >>I
>> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
(but
>> >> >>hey
>> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> >> >>to
>> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> background...
>> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> raven
>> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >>>>><manf...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
otherwise
>> this
>> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
recognize
>> it
>> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> seemed
>> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
weird
>> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me.   :-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
exposed
>> to
>> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
make
>> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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