I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc
The moose and beaver are also laden. Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project. cheers Timp On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bmat...@batmat.net> wrote: > Oups, forgot users list. > > Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least > prefer the more friendly 13 one (see > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). > I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if > this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since > we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't > friendly enough, /me think. > > > 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png >> >> >> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <roy.ly...@cmegroup.com> wrote: >> >> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying >> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of >> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps >> it >> > can be a #15... >> > >> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a >> direct >> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called >> > >maven using a silhouetted raven... >> > > >> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in >> > >context: >> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) >> > > >> > > >> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly >> > ><stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > > >> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays: >> > >> >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in >> > >> context: >> > >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png >> > ) >> > >> >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in >> > >> context: >> > >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png >> > ) >> > >> >> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than >> > >>just >> > >> things that I have sketched... >> > >> >> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: >> > >> >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note >> > >> would need to check if we can use this one) >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png >> > >> >> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases >> I >> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In >> other >> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both >> > >>from >> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another >> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to >> ask >> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if >> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that >> > >>type >> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar >> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition >> including a >> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the >> > >>raven, >> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so >> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular >> > >>we >> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image. >> > >> >> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote >> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions >> as >> > >>I >> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but >> > >>hey >> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be >> reduced >> > >>to >> > >> a run-off of my creations) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly < >> > >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go >> with a >> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: >> > >>> >> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png >> > >>> >> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version >> > >>> >> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png >> > >>> >> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem >> > >>> >> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png >> > >>> >> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... >> > >>> just haven't had time to do it >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly < >> > >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven.... >> > >>>> >> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a >> raven >> > >>>> in their logo >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser >> > >>>>><manf...@simpligility.com> >> > >>>>> > wrote: >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise >> this >> > >>>>> looks >> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize >> it >> > >>>>>as >> > >>>>> a >> > >>>>> >> raven .. >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part >> seemed >> > >>>>>to >> > >>>>> look >> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird >> > >>>>> swirly >> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle. >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-) >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed >> to >> > >>>>> these >> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make >> > >>>>>it a >> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-) >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> manfred >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Sent from my phone >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net > Sauvez un arbre, > Mangez un castor ! -- Tim Pizey http://pizey.net/~timp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
