On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Tim Pizey <t...@paneris.org> wrote: > I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc > > The moose and beaver are also laden. > > Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? > Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project. >
I think this is more due to our lack of graphic design capability than intent :-) A good designer can take the ideas of being an expert/community and likely come up with something that looks good and has some meaning. > > cheers > Timp > > On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bmat...@batmat.net> wrote: >> Oups, forgot users list. >> >> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least >> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). >> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if >> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since >> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't >> friendly enough, /me think. >> >> >> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png >>> >>> >>> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <roy.ly...@cmegroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying >>>> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of >>>> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps >>> it >>>> can be a #15... >>>> >>>> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a >>> direct >>>>> copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called >>>>> maven using a silhouetted raven... >>>>> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in >>>>> context: >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly >>>>> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> two more that I drew over the holidays: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in >>>>>> context: >>>>>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png >>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in >>>>>> context: >>>>>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png >>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than >>>>>> just >>>>>> things that I have sketched... >>>>>> >>>>>> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note >>>>>> would need to check if we can use this one) >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases >>> I >>>>>> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In >>> other >>>>>> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both >>>>>> from >>>>>> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another >>>>>> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to >>> ask >>>>>> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if >>>>>> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that >>>>>> type >>>>>> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar >>>>>> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition >>> including a >>>>>> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the >>>>>> raven, >>>>>> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so >>>>>> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular >>>>>> we >>>>>> can look into getting the approval to use the image. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote >>>>>> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions >>> as >>>>>> I >>>>>> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but >>>>>> hey >>>>>> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be >>> reduced >>>>>> to >>>>>> a run-off of my creations) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go >>> with a >>>>>>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OTOH here is a different stylised version >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally, here is a raven totem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... >>>>>>> just haven't had time to do it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we can't go with the raven.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a >>> raven >>>>>>>> in their logo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser >>>>>>>>> <manf...@simpligility.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise >>> this >>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>>>> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize >>> it >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> raven .. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part >>> seemed >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>> more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird >>>>>>>>> swirly >>>>>>>>>> thing at the ankle. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed >>> to >>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make >>>>>>>>> it a >>>>>>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> manfred >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net >> Sauvez un arbre, >> Mangez un castor ! > > > > -- > Tim Pizey > http://pizey.net/~timp > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl ---------------------------------------------------------
