OK great, thanks Leo!

> but caching is valid for all encode* method then. Any ideas how to
> detect "this component will be rendered in this lifecycle" and cache
> renderer even for getClientId? stateManagement calls getClientId
> (checkIds) before component.encodeBegin. Can we use visitTree method for
> that?

we could use visitTree(), but note that this could be very expensive ;)

Regards,
Jakob

2011/5/13 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>:
> Leonardo Uribe píše v Pá 13. 05. 2011 v 14:59 -0500:
>> Hi
>>
>> +1 to both changes.
>
> That means: replace StateHelper with attribute as MYFACES-3136 suggests,
> right?
>
>>  I agree with you about rendererType is always an
>> String, there is not any mention on the spec saying rendererType could
>> receive EL expressions. If someone wants to change a renderer, it uses
>> a RenderKit wrapper or just define another RenderKitId to be used for
>> the current application.
>>
>> Please note this description of UIViewRoot.getRenderKitId :
>>
>> "... Return the render kit identifier of the RenderKit associated with
>> this view. Unless explicitly set, as in
>> ViewHandler.createView(javax.faces.context.FacesContext,
>> java.lang.String), the returned value will be null. ..."
>>
>> and setRenderKitId:
>>
>> "... Set the render kit identifier of the RenderKit associated with
>> this view. This method may be called at any time between the end of
>> Apply Request Values phase of the request processing lifecycle (i.e.
>> when events are being broadcast) and the beginning of the Render
>> Response phase. ..."
>>
>> So any caching must preserve this behavior.
>
> Thats very interesting, with this behaviour it is possible to change
> renderkit in actionListener for example. But it also means that renderer
> cannot be be cached UIComponentBase:
>
> 1) UIComponent.decode -> caches renderer
> 2) INVOKE_APPLICATION -> changes renderKit
> 3) UIComponent.encodeBegin -> uses old cached renderer
>
> but caching is valid for all encode* method then. Any ideas how to
> detect "this component will be rendered in this lifecycle" and cache
> renderer even for getClientId? stateManagement calls getClientId
> (checkIds) before component.encodeBegin. Can we use visitTree method for
> that?
>
> Kočičák
>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Leonardo
>>
>> 2011/5/13 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > trinidad caches Renderer instance in UIXComponentBase so they at least
>> > suppose that rendererType cannot change during one render/response and
>> > no need for evaluate it in every getRendererType() call - see
>> > MYFACES-3144.
>> >
>> > Other libs I'll check.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Kočičák
>> >
>> > Jakob Korherr píše v Pá 13. 05. 2011 v 16:44 +0200:
>> >> Hmm, ok.
>> >>
>> >> I also can't think of a scenario where you would use something like
>> >> this right now. But I'll think of it and do some research..
>> >>
>> >> Martin, could you take a look at some of the prominent JSF component
>> >> libs (like Primefaces, Trinidad, Tomahawk, Tobago, RichFaces,
>> >> IceFaces) and search in their code for something like this? If you
>> >> don't find anything there, then it should be pretty safe to remove the
>> >> ValueExpression support from rendererType!
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jakob
>> >>
>> >> 2011/5/13 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > from spec:
>> >> >
>> >> > .. "Because the components themselves store only a rendererType property
>> >> > (a logical identifier of a particular Renderer)" ..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > rendererType = " Identifier of the Renderer instance (from the set of
>> >> > Renderer rendererType String instances supported by the RenderKit
>> >> > associated with the component tree we are processing."
>> >> >
>> >> > "The default value of the rendererType property must be set to" ...
>> >> > (always String in spec)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > JavaDoc: setRendererType - rendererType = Logical identifier of the type
>> >> > of Renderer to use, or null for components that render themselves
>> >> >
>> >> > It seems to me that rendererType is String-only, not ValueExpression.
>> >> > Similar attributes are componentType and componentFamily -those are
>> >> > String-only I think.
>> >> >
>> >> > Internally in code I don't see
>> >> > component.setValueExpression("rendererType", ve).
>> >> >
>> >> > <a:component rendererType="#{bean.getRendererType}" /> is not possible.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > About state saving and rendererType I found nothing.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jakob Korherr píše v Pá 13. 05. 2011 v 16:11 +0200:
>> >> >> Hi Martin,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have you checked the JSF 2.1 and 2.0 specs yet?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Jakob
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/5/13 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > two questions :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1) can UIComponent.rendererType be ValueExpression? If yes, in which
>> >> >> > situation is useful to use it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2) should be rendereType saved during state saving? Each component 
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > setRendererType("com.foo.renderer") in constructor and/or VDL calls
>> >> >> > setRendererType() after calling Application.createComponent()
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please see MYFACES-3136 for details
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kočičák
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
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>



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