On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Pedro Giffuni <p...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> Da: Rob Weir
> ...
>>>
>>>  OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
>>>  incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
>>>  Symphony (which is rather crappy). atanh, asinh, erf,
>>>  everything in SAL has needed continued revisions.
>>>
>>
>> I have not seen anything that took a legitimate formula and changed it
>> to an error.  I'm not ab absolutist.  I'm willing to consider changes
>> at the 8th decimal points.  But not gross level breaks in
>> compatibility.
>>
>
> Please note that we don't return an error: this is not something that will 
> cause
> core dumps or affect stability: we return Not a Number (NaN), which is more
> in line with the mathematical behavior of the real function and signals
> the end user that he likely made has to revisit his formulation (all very good
> IMHO).
>
> The distinction is important. I surely didn't introduce a bug.
>
>
>>>>  Finally, treating 0^0 == 1 is very common in programming languages and
>>>>  spreadsheets, being the value returned by OpenOffice since 1.0, as
>>>>  well as by Calligra Sheets, Google Docs, Symphony, LibreOffice, Java,
>>>>  C, and .NET.  Anyone arguing that the value is incorrect faces a
>>>>  mountain of contrary opinion and practice.
>>>>
>>>
>>>  So far you have failed to produce an example of reasonable use where
>>>  such incompatibility is evident.
>>>
>>
>> For purposes of a veto I only need to show that I have a technical objection.
>>
>
> And I don't see a valid technical objection, just different criteria.
>
> Now, it is probably not fair for me to judge if your technical objection
> is valid or not. It surely doesn't fall within the common examples (
> does not open a security exposure, negatively affects performance,
> etc)
>

You have two vetos.  Are you going to revert or shall I do it for you?

You are welcome to continue the discussion all you want, but that
should be done with the change reverted first.

-Rob

> There should probably be an objective judge for these things (the PMC?)
> but it is not defined within the Apache procedures.
>
> Pedro.
>

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