There is a bit to discuss about how "The entity should ensure they work on the 
AOO codebase using the ASF way" is workable or not.  In particular, no such 
entity can direct the project at Apache or otherwise effectively govern it.  
More about that later.

There is another option, summarized below.  One might also consider this as a 
reality check.  That is, if that is not feasible, it may be that no other 
arrangement is.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suminda Dharmasena [mailto:sirinath19...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 00:23
> To: market...@openoffice.apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am writing to see if the current AOO Dev team would like to create an
> independent entity which can:
> 
>    - Do trainings
>    - Accept funds and have pay developers
>    - Write commercial books / online tutorials with sponsorship
> 
> This can be used have paid developers working on the project. Maybe
> initial
> sponsorship can come from an organisation like Redhat, Pivotal or Micro
> Focus if they are interested. Perhaps companies which used the code base
> in
> the past like IBM or Oracle.
> 
> The entity should ensure they work on the AOO codebase using the ASF
> way.
> 
> Suminda
[orcmid] 

AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH

Another way to interact and support Apache OpenOffice in terms of collaborative 
contributions is as follows.

 1. Establish a downstream producer, TeamX (for example), that provides 
releases of derivative software based on Apache OpenOffice.

 2. Assumption #1: The Apache License Version 2 (ALv2) is honored in the use of 
Apache OpenOffice source code.  Apache trademark requirements are satisfied in 
any use as part of the branding of the downstream product.

 3. Assumption #2: New code and modifications to the TeamX derivative are also 
under ALv2.

 4. Open-Source Good Citizenship: The ALv2-licensed fixes and repairs are 
contributed back upstream to Apache OpenOffice.  Components from other sources 
would, of course, be contributed upstream to those sources.  Contributions and 
joint concerns might lead to use of the OpenOffice bugzilla as a coordination 
point.

 5. Opportunity.  The business model, organization, and governance of TeamX is 
not of concern to the ASF.

 6. Opportunity.  The Apache Software Foundation requirements beyond honoring 
of the ALv2 that govern Apache projects serving the public interest do not 
apply, although TeamX could operate in a harmonious manner.

 7. Opportunity. So long as there is clear separation and no comingling in 
source-code files, TeamX is not constrained from also using code or components 
from other projects, such as those using licenses such as the MPL or, under 
appropriate conditions, something like LGPL2, with appropriate honoring of 
those licenses too.  However, to avoid tainting of upstream source-code 
contributions back to Apache OpenOffice, there must be careful management of IP 
and reliance on code (source or binary) under non-ALv2 license (and ALv2 code 
which is not the original work of TeamX).

 8. Opportunity. Depending on how close the operation of TeamX releases remains 
to that of Apache OpenOffice, especially at the beginning, one can rely on the 
Apache OpenOffice mediawiki and openoffice.org site in large measure, so long 
as there is no confusion.  Also, the Apache OpenOffice Community Forums are 
more ecumenical in how they can provide forum support to OpenOffice.org-lineage 
ODF-supporting products. How confusion is avoided would need to be worked out, 
but this provides TeamX time to develop its own support as that ends up having 
unique requirements.

This is not unlike how downstream organizations rely on Apache OpenOffice for 
specialized distributions (e.g., FreeBSD, OS/2, and Solaris).  There are other 
Apache projects where the downstream ecosystem is quite robust and the key 
Apache project deliverable is the source-code release and not so much any 
end-user binary distributions.

 - Dennis


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