> On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:35 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't mind spending some cycles on figuring out how to sign the actual app 
>> before it's packaged into the dmg...
> 
> Sure we can see if that makes a difference, but the first question is if 
> notarization makes any difference on any macOS from before 10.15.
> 
> See https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2206/_index.html
> 
> Look at “Signing Disk Images”
> 
> I think further exploration involves looking into how GateKeeper has changed 
> with each macOS version.

This resource might help too.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/notarizing_your_app_before_distribution

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there is a build.pl option that sez "stop before 
>> packaging"? I don't see any from what I can see...
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>> It worked for Catalina and that is the goal. I don’t think a difference 
>>> should be expected for macOS prior to 10.15.
>>> 
>>> Please check with Apple Developer documentation before letting FUD get you!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31.10.2019 19:49, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>> Located at
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO418-macOS-test/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are some test macOS dmgs that should be correctly signed and notarized 
>>>>>> such that they do not trigger Gatekeeper; that is, they should result in 
>>>>>> AOO opening on macOS without any warning about unknown developer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please check that this does, in fact, happen ;) If not, then instead of 
>>>>>> signing, notarizing and stapling the DMG we will need to do the actual 
>>>>>> app itself, which means some changes to the actual AOO build and 
>>>>>> packaging process... which I hope we don't need :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nope, sorry (macOS 10.14.6). Still complains. Signing the DMG is not 
>>>>> enough.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As I feared... I'll start looking at where to plug-in the additional steps.
>>>> 
>>>> Most likely, we'll need to separate out, functionally in the build setup, 
>>>> creating the binary and the packaging... something like:
>>>> 
>>>> $ build.pl" --all (stops before we bundle things up)
>>>> $ dmake package (rpm and deb for Linux, dmg for macOS)
>>>> 
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