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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> 
> Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave:
>> On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
>>>> had received from you and other PMC members previously.
>>>> 
>>>> If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and
>>>> extreme privacy challenge here:
>>>> https://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice
>>>> 
>>>> In my view anyone who "steps up to he plate" for ANY role in an OPEN
>>>> source project should not have any concerns about being identified a
>>>> contributor and their role that project. I am not ashamed of being
>>>> identified as a (very small, relatively unimportant) contributor to the
>>>> AOO project and I suggest that ANYONE who is wishes to adopt this
>>>> underhanded, secretive approach, should step away from the project.
>>> I agree about every role except moderation. I moderate 27 different Apache 
>>> Mailing Lists only one of which is an AOO list.
>>> 
>>> If the community wishes to disclose all of the moderators that would be an 
>>> acceptable outcome.
>> I read your words, which are the same as you and other PMC members have
>> previously stated, but I still do not read any explanation as to the
>> rational of why moderators should hold any more of an exclusive or
>> covert role within the ASF.
>> Let's just put this down to my natural stupidity and end this thread,
>> because there is nothing to be gained by perusing the subject.
> 
> normally I would agree. However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... 
> why moderators should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the 
> ASF ..." and why you think there is something secret?
> 
> A moderator is just a committer as you and me. Some are also a PMC member or 
> maybe also supporter/committer/member of other ASF projects. But thats it.
> 
> I volunteer to create a Wiki page to show who is moderating which mailing 
> list(s) - if the community think it has a value.

That’s ok as long as it is made clear NOT to ever contact moderators directly 
about the mailing list.

I hope you see the conundrum being presented.

Regards,
Dave
> 
> Marcus
> 
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