Hi Ryan, I think we need
1) Great Logo for shindig 2) Attractive yet simple template for doco. 3) Few shindig implementations on web, this will help users to understand how shindig work and what extend it can be enhanced. These will help shindig to attract new users/developers. Sorry i do not have skill to develop logo. If we dont get any i am happy to find some font which will look good for name "shindig", let me know. Regards, Raj On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@apache.org> wrote: > Chris many other popular apache projects keep the project > documentation on the project site....take a look at Apache HTTP, > Apache Tomcat, and Apache Hadoop. Not sure if they have all moved > over to Apache CMS or not but I would rather stick with the > convention. > > Agree on a new logo, if anyone has the skills to come up with one that > would be great. > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Chris Spiliotopoulos > <chrysanthos.spiliotopou...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > the question is how we should balance the material between Apache CMS and > > Confluence. I think that all technical guides and resources should go > into > > Confluence - making it the official documentation space, rather than > just a > > wiki - and all the high-level reference / 'marketing' / news material > into > > the web site. > > > > I'm having a look at different Bootstrap themes in order to select a few, > > submit the initial list and let the people involved decide. As I've > > already said, I think we should use a vibrant theme that shouts "Hey, > have > > a look inside. It's good stuff!" therefore my attention is grabbed by > > 'landing page' / 'agency' parallax type themes. > > > > One thing that is missing though, is a kick-ass Shindig logo. Is someone > > willing to create one? Raj, if you could suggest a Bootstrap theme that > > would be great. > > > > In the following days, I'll post a selection of themes as a reference and > > we can vote. Also, I'll try and write down a suggested link structure > for > > the new site and also a scaffolding for the technical docs in Confluence. > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > >> OK well for reference check out the website docs [1]. Let me know if > >> you have any problems. > >> > >> [1] http://shindig.apache.org/documentation_website.html > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Raj Janorkar <raj.janor...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Ryan, > >> > > >> > In my work place i am using Confluence. so i don't think there will be > >> > problem to me. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Raj > >> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Chris and Raj, appreciate you both stepping up! Are you familiar > with > >> >> how to use Apache CMS to edit the Shindig site? > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Raj Janorkar <raj.janor...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I am also in. > >> >> > though i am new here but ready to help wherever i can. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you for this great step. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Chris Spiliotopoulos < > >> >> > chrysanthos.spiliotopou...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi all, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I am willing to take the first step forward on this but I expect > all > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> people in this group to contribute / suggest / vote on important > >> things > >> >> >> that will make the Shindig project come back to life and start > >> >> >> receiving > >> >> >> attention. Based on the steps that Ryan suggested: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *1. We use the Shindig site as the place to keep the > >> documentation. > >> >> >> > It > >> >> >> is > >> >> >> > CMS based [1] so no need to know how to write HTML.* > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> First we need to decide on an awesome & clean theme for the > website > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> will be responsive and attractive. As Bootstrap is already being > >> used > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> should be no prob, but we need to use a theme that will rock. > Please > >> >> >> suggest themes from other sites that you find attractive and user > >> >> >> friendly. For instance, I find the SailsJS <http://sailsjs.org/> > >> theme > >> >> >> very clear for reading. Also, if someone could deal with the art > >> work > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> would be very useful. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > *2. We create a getting started guide, containing the minimal > set > >> >> >> > of steps to get someone up and running.* > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > *3. We create a detailed implementation guide that addresses > how > >> >> >> > someone > >> >> >> > would extend Shindig to build their own implementation.* > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Next, we need to make a map of the current structure of the web > site > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> then suggest alternatives on how the new site should be > structured. > >> >> >> The > >> >> >> key here is that it should be self explanatory and guide you > >> >> >> step-by-step > >> >> >> on how to do from the simplest to the most advanced task. > Newcomers > >> >> >> should > >> >> >> feel comfortable with it so that they start with an appetite to > learn > >> >> >> more > >> >> >> about this project. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This part requires an initial gathering of all existing resources > and > >> >> >> cleansing. Everything should be relevant to the latest version > >> >> >> of the framework. A few months ago I had created a GitHub > project > >> >> >> < > https://github.com/theChefArchitect/os-examples-container-embedded> > >> >> >> with > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> sample embedded container in a Spring web app written for this > >> purpose. > >> >> >> I've also noticed that the maintenance of the PHP version has > >> stopped. > >> >> >> All > >> >> >> these cluttered resources should be gathered in one place > initially > >> and > >> >> >> then decide which of them should be used as a reference for the > new > >> >> >> documentation. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *4. In the process of doing this we cleanup/consolidate the > >> Shindig > >> >> >> > site > >> >> >> > and the wiki.* > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> One important thing that should be decided is where the > >> documentation / > >> >> >> tutorials should be hosted. At the moment the web site acts as a > >> proxy > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> different documentation locations around the web and some > hard-core > >> >> >> tech > >> >> >> docs live under Atlassian's Confulence site > >> >> >> <https://opensocial.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OSREF>. What's the > >> story > >> >> >> with that? Will the documentation be hosted under Confluence or > >> under > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> web site? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Overall, this task requires collaborative effort and should be > done > >> in > >> >> >> baby > >> >> >> steps. Documentation / guides are important but then there are > >> plenty > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> other stuff needed to make this project gain a vibrant community - > >> e.g. > >> >> >> gadgets hosted on the site for tutorials and show cases, API > >> >> >> documentation > >> >> >> / integration, social media presence, etc. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Looking forward to your responses. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, > >> >> >> Chris > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Ryan Baxter < > rbaxte...@apache.org> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Does anyone feel especially passionate about this topic and > want to > >> >> >> > step up and take the lead on this? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Darren Bond < > db...@globalcad.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > Hi Ryan, > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > This sounds like a really great start. I'm sure a clean and > clear > >> >> >> > getting started guide + detailed implementation guide that can > be > >> >> >> > easily > >> >> >> > located on the Shindig site will make a huge difference on the > >> >> >> > take-up of > >> >> >> > this impressive framework. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Kind regards, > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Darren > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Chris Spiliotopoulos > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Solutions Architect > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Spiliotopoulos > > > > Solutions Architect >
