Chris many other popular apache projects keep the project
documentation on the project site....take a look at Apache HTTP,
Apache Tomcat, and Apache Hadoop.  Not sure if they have all moved
over to Apache CMS or not but I would rather stick with the
convention.

Agree on a new logo, if anyone has the skills to come up with one that
would be great.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Chris Spiliotopoulos
<chrysanthos.spiliotopou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the question is how we should balance the material between Apache CMS and
> Confluence.  I think that all technical guides and resources should go into
> Confluence - making it the official documentation space, rather than just a
> wiki - and all the high-level reference / 'marketing' / news material into
> the web site.
>
> I'm having a look at different Bootstrap themes in order to select a few,
> submit the initial list and let the people involved decide.  As I've
> already said, I think we should use a vibrant theme that shouts "Hey, have
> a look inside. It's good stuff!" therefore my attention is grabbed by
> 'landing page' / 'agency' parallax type themes.
>
> One thing that is missing though, is a kick-ass Shindig logo.  Is someone
> willing to create one?  Raj, if you could suggest a Bootstrap theme that
> would be great.
>
> In the following days, I'll post a selection of themes as a reference and
> we can vote.  Also, I'll try and write down a suggested link structure for
> the new site and also a scaffolding for the technical docs in Confluence.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> OK well for reference check out the website docs [1].  Let me know if
>> you have any problems.
>>
>> [1] http://shindig.apache.org/documentation_website.html
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Raj Janorkar <raj.janor...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Ryan,
>> >
>> > In my work place i am using Confluence. so i don't think there will be
>> > problem to me.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Raj
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Chris and Raj, appreciate you both stepping up!  Are you familiar with
>> >> how to use Apache CMS to edit the Shindig site?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Raj Janorkar <raj.janor...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I am also in.
>> >> > though i am new here but ready to help wherever i can.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for this great step.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Chris Spiliotopoulos <
>> >> > chrysanthos.spiliotopou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am willing to take the first step forward on this but I expect all
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> people in this group to contribute / suggest / vote on important
>> things
>> >> >> that will make the Shindig project come back to life and start
>> >> >> receiving
>> >> >> attention.  Based on the steps that Ryan suggested:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > *1.  We use the Shindig site as the place to keep the
>> documentation.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> > CMS based [1] so no need to know how to write HTML.*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First we need to decide on an awesome & clean theme for the website
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will be responsive and attractive.  As Bootstrap is already being
>> used
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> should be no prob, but we need to use a theme that will rock.  Please
>> >> >> suggest themes from other sites that you find attractive and user
>> >> >> friendly.  For instance, I find the SailsJS <http://sailsjs.org/>
>> theme
>> >> >> very clear for reading.  Also, if someone could deal with the art
>> work
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> would be very useful.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *2.  We create a getting started guide, containing the minimal set
>> >> >> > of steps to get someone up and running.*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *3.  We create a detailed implementation guide that addresses how
>> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> > would extend Shindig to build their own implementation.*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next, we need to make a map of the current structure of the web site
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> then suggest alternatives on how the new site should be structured.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> key here is that it should be self explanatory and guide you
>> >> >> step-by-step
>> >> >> on how to do from the simplest to the most advanced task.  Newcomers
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> feel comfortable with it so that they start with an appetite to learn
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> about this project.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This part requires an initial gathering of all existing resources and
>> >> >> cleansing.  Everything should be relevant to the latest version
>> >> >>  of the framework.  A few months ago I had created a GitHub project
>> >> >> <https://github.com/theChefArchitect/os-examples-container-embedded>
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> sample embedded container in a Spring web app written for this
>> purpose.
>> >> >> I've also noticed that the maintenance of the PHP version has
>> stopped.
>> >> >> All
>> >> >> these cluttered resources should be gathered in one place initially
>> and
>> >> >> then decide which of them should be used as a reference for the new
>> >> >> documentation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > *4.  In the process of doing this we cleanup/consolidate the
>> Shindig
>> >> >> > site
>> >> >> > and the wiki.*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> One important thing that should be decided is where the
>> documentation /
>> >> >> tutorials should be hosted.  At the moment the web site acts as a
>> proxy
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> different documentation locations around the web and some hard-core
>> >> >> tech
>> >> >> docs live under Atlassian's Confulence site
>> >> >> <https://opensocial.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OSREF>. What's the
>> story
>> >> >> with that?  Will the documentation be hosted under Confluence or
>> under
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> web site?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Overall, this task requires collaborative effort and should be done
>> in
>> >> >> baby
>> >> >> steps.  Documentation / guides are important but then there are
>> plenty
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> other stuff needed to make this project gain a vibrant community -
>> e.g.
>> >> >> gadgets hosted on the site for tutorials and show cases, API
>> >> >> documentation
>> >> >> / integration, social media presence, etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Looking forward to your responses.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Chris
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@apache.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Does anyone feel especially passionate about this topic and want to
>> >> >> > step up and take the lead on this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Darren Bond <db...@globalcad.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Hi Ryan,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > This sounds like a really great start. I'm sure a clean and clear
>> >> >> > getting started guide + detailed implementation guide that can be
>> >> >> > easily
>> >> >> > located on the Shindig site will make a huge difference on the
>> >> >> > take-up of
>> >> >> > this impressive framework.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Kind regards,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Darren
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Chris Spiliotopoulos
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Solutions Architect
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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>
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