I too have been perplexed why these modes that were developed for weak 
signals on VHF and above and only have the most meager rudimentary 
exchange,  would have any value on HF, relative to already existing weak 
signal modes. Perhaps because it seemed "new," some focused on trying it 
out?

What I still would like to see is a sound card ARQ modes that is 
scaleable in speed and also can work with weak signals, QSB, etc.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Brian A wrote:
> I've been playing around with this on 20M.
>
> The new version which does the decoding starting at 48 seconds is a
> big help.
>
> Of the the 25 contacts I've made all were clearly audible.  All could
> have been worked on CW with no difficulty.  They could have been
> worked on PSK or other such modes too--much more quickly.  Most came
> from answers to my CQ's. 
>
> Is this the experience of others? 
>
> So what is the benefit on HF?  
>
> I clearly don't see this as being the future of HF ham radio.  It
> isn't the killer ap. (I'm sure the MS, moonbounce and VHF capabilities
> are great and that was the original design objective)
>
> I'm a bit perplexed that stations which are S6 and above show up at
> -6db or so on the display.  I know what it is editing.  It is a pretty
> useless number to most users.  What I want to know is: "how far below
> the current noise floor is the signal that I'm now working".  It would
> seem that such a "below the noise" number could be determined and
> editied.  Isn't this what all users (HF and V/UHF) want to know?
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
>   

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