The excitement of using the JT65 program on HF is NOT for those signals you
can clearly hear and probably operate with another mode, but for those times
that the propagation shows not to be there, you dont hear anything but
possibly a slight raise in static on a band, etc.  Then you can put this
mode up, leave it alone, and see what pops out.  Its for "playing" not
really trying to communicate.  FYI  if anyone in P5 wants to work it, plse
do so.  Whether we can hear you or not, we will be there.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
    use that - also pls upload to LOTW
    or hard card.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] JT65A HF query/observations


> I too have been perplexed why these modes that were developed for weak
> signals on VHF and above and only have the most meager rudimentary
> exchange,  would have any value on HF, relative to already existing weak
> signal modes. Perhaps because it seemed "new," some focused on trying it
> out?
>
> What I still would like to see is a sound card ARQ modes that is
> scaleable in speed and also can work with weak signals, QSB, etc.
>
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
>
>
>
> Brian A wrote:
> > I've been playing around with this on 20M.
> >
> > The new version which does the decoding starting at 48 seconds is a
> > big help.
> >
> > Of the the 25 contacts I've made all were clearly audible.  All could
> > have been worked on CW with no difficulty.  They could have been
> > worked on PSK or other such modes too--much more quickly.  Most came
> > from answers to my CQ's.
> >
> > Is this the experience of others?
> >
> > So what is the benefit on HF?
> >
> > I clearly don't see this as being the future of HF ham radio.  It
> > isn't the killer ap. (I'm sure the MS, moonbounce and VHF capabilities
> > are great and that was the original design objective)
> >
> > I'm a bit perplexed that stations which are S6 and above show up at
> > -6db or so on the display.  I know what it is editing.  It is a pretty
> > useless number to most users.  What I want to know is: "how far below
> > the current noise floor is the signal that I'm now working".  It would
> > seem that such a "below the noise" number could be determined and
> > editied.  Isn't this what all users (HF and V/UHF) want to know?
> >
> > 73 de Brian/K3KO
> >
> >
>
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