Rag:
I'm looking at the ST0R web site right now, and under "QSL Information" (see http://www.dxfriends.com/SouthernSudan2011/qsl.php ) they make NO mention whatsoever of ANY donation needed for a LotW upload. They ask for an SAE and enough IRC's to cover the return postage, nothing unreasonable, and also explicitly state that they will also return cards via the bureau if you choose not to include sufficient return postage / IRC's. Now if you want to get picky, they also state on that page that donors who contribute above a certain $ amount can email the manager directly with their QSO information for a card. Are they giving special consideration to those who donate? You can make that argument. You can also argue that that's a courtesy to those who donate, a perk. not a demand for funds. But that is hardly a cash cow, and they still have to print and mail the cards. So your argument is invalid. Now if you're complaining about a different DXpedition, cite facts and don't tie it to an ST0R thread. It implies that they are doing something that the facts show they are not. And if you really feel the need to libel this group, do it elsewhere. _____ From: ragnar otterstad [mailto:la...@yahoo.no] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:41 PM To: wn3...@verizon.net; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW With respect: When you are asked to make a contribution to have your QSOs uploaded to LOTW, what do you call that ? 73 Rag Fra: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3...@verizon.net> Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Mandag, 19. desember 2011 22.04 Emne: RE: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Not this old canard again. Nobody "has" to pay for a confirmation. Yes, I know there are individual cases where this has happened, that is not an absolute statement. But NONE of these recent big DXpeditions have, so far as I know, demanded renumeration in return for a confirmation. Have they asked? Yes. Well, there are expenses. But no one has demanded reimbursement, and in most cases, at best a DXpedition breaks even on postage and printing costs for QSL cards. If you don't want or need your card back quickly, wait on the bureau. Thus it has been, thus it shall be. 73, ron w3wn On 12/19/11, rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: My thanks to the many people who responded to my request for info re ST0R QSL's and LOTW credits. I appreciate your responses and info. John Owens - N7TK Celebrating over 50 Years in Ham Radio No. 1 Honor Roll ******************** It seems like some DXpeditions are turned into cashcows ! First we contribute individually or via our DX-club, then have to pay again for confirmation ! I never thought this was going to be a business! 73 merry Xmas Rag LA5HE ( since 1953 ) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org <http://njdxa.org/> ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org <http://njdxa.org/> ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -----------------------------------------------------------