I find the best thing for phone contesting is a ton of attenuation and 
judicious use of RF Gain, combined with narrow bandwidth. No way to get rid of 
the low-frequency rumble from within the passband, but the combination of the 
roofing filter, DSP high cut and shift/width will get rid of the high-pitched 
adjacent noise enough to be reasonably efficient. I still don't like SSB 
contests, but they're far more survivable with a loaded K3s than they were with 
previous radios!

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GO FRC!
Peter, W2IRT

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Stravinsky via 
Elecraft
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 1:35 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

I opted for a 2.1 ssb filter hoping to be able to enjoy phone contesting just a 
little bit more but so far I haven't found the magic elixir for phone.I only 
replied to the post after seeing "information garbling" from Don.  That is 
exactly what happens to me with whatever filter or passbandsetting I have tried 
in my K3 during a phone contest.  Btw, that is during major DX contests, I can 
handle the smaller ones but normally don't, hi.

BillK3WJV
   On Sunday, August 26, 2018, 9:53:41 AM EDT, Don Wilhelm 
<donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Lee,

The 2.8kHz filter has a flatter passband and steeper skirts than the 2.7kHz.

But remember that this is a roofing filter, the DSP provides the actual 
filtering for the K3/K3S.
The purpose of the roofing filter is to keep strong adjacent signals 
from overloading the Hardware AGC and the ADC at the input to the DSP 
circuits.  A strong signal that is inside the passband of the roofing 
filter, but outside the passband of the DSP filter (you may not hear 
that signal since it is outside the DSP filter) can cause receiver AGC 
"pumping" and in extreme cases can overload the ADC causing severe 
"information garbling".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/26/2018 8:45 AM, Lee Murrah via Elecraft wrote:
> I am looking to upgrade my K3S with filters and am using the DX version of 
> the radio as a guide.  What is the advantage of the 2.8 KHz filter over the 
> stock 2.7?  What does the 2.1 KHz filter do for you?
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