On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Pete Matos <petefro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Very small cars not comfortable for trips?   Have you seen the Tesla Model
> S.... There is a fellow local to me who just bought one and I saw and sat
> in this car up close and personal. It is a GORGEOUS car and very roomy and
> comfortable.  The folks who have bought them have been trying to post the
> greatest range numbers in a kind of internet competition. The record is now
> over 400 miles albeit at a relatively slow pace in town but at even a hwy
> speed it is not a big deal to go 250 miles on a charge. I dunno about you
> but if you have to drive more than 125 miles one way to work you need to
> find a better job closer to home.   These are not imagined numbers these
> are not fantasy, these cars are not tiny science experiments they are REAL
> CARS with everything your BMW or mercedes has and then some.  Also note
> that these are the FIRST cars of their kind in the realm there are many
> more on the way. If you choose to doubt it that is your issue, the reality
> is that we NEED to do this, we NEED these cars and motorcycles to run on
> electric power not just to get us off oil and petroleum but for ecological,
> political, as well as financial reasons.  If a FLEET delivery vehicle makes
> sense to use this technology as much as they are constantly running even in
> an in town service then for sure people can use it to get back and forth to
> work which is far and away the lions share of the driving most people do
> everyday. Most people drive less than an hour to work and back and that is
> MOST people even in the US.  Even if you just HAD to keep your conventional
> vehicle for the long trips these cars make sense for many many people even
> if they don't live in a city.   Have you ever even driven an electric
> car?   I am not gonna further clutter this thread with an argument about
> EV's.  back to the Monarch EE discussion...peace
>
> Pete
>


I said the majority of full electric cars are small cars.  The Tesla Model
S is not a small car.  Great.  It can go 400 miles before a recharge.  How
long does it take to recharge?  You still haven't answered that question.
One hour?  Five hours?  12 hours? 18 hours?

I'm 6'2" and over 200 lbs.  I physically can not fit into a Smart car
without contortions.

I said earlier, in urban areas where people commute less than 100 miles per
day the electric car will work.  Better yet, is the hybrid, where you're
not tethered to an electrical outlet.

But, there are plenty of people who drive a lot of miles every day, as
their job.  Sales folks, non-local delivery jobs and so on.

Go ahead and get your electric car.  I have no problems with you buying
one.  I just don't see the majority of the folks switching over to that
kind of vehicle until the long charge times, charger availability reaches
the numbers of gas stations all over the country - not just in urban areas,
and a good, cheap way to dispose of the batteries when their useful life
ends as well as a cheap set of replacements.

By the time you total up what your electric charges are over the life of
the vehicle, and replacement battery costs are added to that, you probably
would be more money in the bank with a gasoline or hybrid vehicle.

"We" don't "NEED" to do anything.  That's what choice is all about.

Mark
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