Hi, I would like - if possible - to get one or two examples about the objects concerned by your statement:"all objects equally exist, but not all objects exist equally." I guess - but I just guess - that the first part of the sentence is ontological and the second part could be political, but maybe I'm wrong. Thanks in advance.
Best, Frederic Neyrat 2012/6/14 Ian Bogost <ian.bog...@lcc.gatech.edu>: > Ok, sigh, let me try this again. > > The "as much as" is not a judgement of value, but of existence. This is the > fundamental disagreement that played out in the comments to Galloway's work > and in the many responses elsewhere. The world is big and contains many > things. I've put this principle thusly: "all objects equally exist, but not > all objects exist equally." > > It's possible that such a metaphysical position isn't for everyone. But if > your idea of "being political" is as exclusionary and deprecatory as both > Galloway's post and my limited experience thusfar here on empyre, then > perhaps you can explain why that a model worth aspiring for? Why that is > virtuous and righteous? > > Ian > > On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > > On 06/14/2012 07:02 PM, Ian Bogost wrote: > > > As for queer and feminist formulations, I agree with the spirit of what > > you say, but I'll reiterate my observation that SR/OOO is moving in a > > slightly different direction—one that concerns toasters and quasars as > > much as human subjects (note the "as much as" here). Why not take this > > work for what it is, at least for starters, rather than for what it > > isn't? > > > The "as much as" is precisely the problem. > > Galloway's critique of OOO that Zach mentioned explains why: > > http://itself.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/a-response-to-graham-harmans-marginalia-on-radical-thinking/ > > But I wouldn't lump Meillassoux in with Harman. I think Meillassoux's > philosophy can indeed be interesting for this debate because of its > embracing of contingency and possibility. > > - Rob. > _______________________________________________ > empyre forum > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > http://www.subtle.net/empyre > > > > _______________________________________________ > empyre forum > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > http://www.subtle.net/empyre _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
