Hi,

2009/3/16 Michael Foord <[email protected]>:
> There is a raffle at PyCon US in a couple of weeks. We could throw in some
> tickets as prizes - or is it a bit late?

Should be OK - if we send them to Stephan they should get in. I've
copied him so he can put me right.

John
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> Michael
>
> John Pinner wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> 2009/3/16 Zeth <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I have been touring around Europe with my work, so I am just now
>>> catching up with the discussions. So below are some scattered thoughts
>>> from me on what I have read thus far.
>>>
>>> 2009/3/15 Jacob Hallén <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - How many people can we have before we run into the limits of the
>>>> facilities?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think this would be a nice problem to have. Like John, I don't think
>>> we will. However, if we get a lot more than we expect then at some
>>> point we just declare it closed. Declaring the conference full is not
>>> a bad thing, those that do not get in this year will be chomping at
>>> the bit to get in next year.
>>>
>>> However, there is always a certain amount of cancellations, so anyone
>>> who could not get a ticket can be put on a waiting list to be
>>> reassigned a ticket when one becomes available.
>>>
>>> Due to some costs being variable, others being fixed, and yet others
>>> being semi-fixed until a certain step point; there are a few "sweet
>>> spots" where we might want to close booking. Adding a thousand in
>>> costs to allow one more delegate would not be sensible. Adding it to
>>> allow 50 delegates might make sense.
>>>
>>> The venue itself would handle a large number. Our experience is that
>>> at any point, a significant amount of people will be at no talk at
>>> all, they will be programming in the foyer and bar areas, in the
>>> toilet or out shopping. If one talk is full, then nevermind, people
>>> can go to other talks and get the talk next year, or listen to the
>>> audio later.
>>>
>>> The things that become more difficult as numbers increase are food,
>>> social events, general crowd control and dealing with people's random
>>> problems, more people means more random one of things. Being prepared
>>> on the small things  helps with that. At the last PyConUK we had a
>>> secure staff room, having a place to print things and talk privately
>>> this made organisation far easier.
>>>
>>> The tutorial days were also a huge help, as a subsection of the crowd
>>> know what to do by the time the rest of the hordes arrive. The people
>>> who have come to the venue before (presumably those who booked at the
>>> extra early-bird rate) will also have a calming effect as they know
>>> the drill already.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> söndagen den 15 mars 2009 skrev John Pinner:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I closed Extra Early Bird this morning, at this point we had 142
>>>>> delegates registered.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> It is clear that several of the UK people knew this was coming, they
>>> were expecting it because the two PyConUK events had the same system
>>> of firm deadlines, we have credibility with them.
>>>
>>> Hopefully by the second year here, the other Europeans will be in the
>>> same rhythm. I have some thoughts on what we could do now since I do
>>> not think we get enough delegates by doing nothing. Expecting the same
>>> publicity to hit everyone in Europe in the same way is not realistic,
>>> we need to divide and conquer, focus on some of the things which would
>>> bring us the most delegates:
>>>
>>> * There is no Republic of Ireland in the list yet. We need to contact
>>> Python Ireland, they have good mailing lists and getting from the
>>> Republic of Ireland to Birmingham is very cheap, so we should be able
>>> to get several Irish delegates. PyConUK had several, Europython should
>>> have even more.
>>>
>>
>> The Irish started registering today, after Extra Early Bird.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> * Likewise we need to find out what lists exist for the Netherlands.
>>> It is very near and we should particularly focus on them.
>>> * From Germany we have had 20 delegates, but I think we should do
>>> more. A prepared German email should be written. We can then
>>> distributed that email to all those Germans who have currently booked,
>>> and ask them nicely to send it around their friends and colleagues.
>>> There are direct and short flights from various German cities to
>>> Birmingham International. There are many German Python Programmers and
>>> Germany does not have its own conference yet.
>>>
>>
>> I think there is, remember Schoene Gruesse an die Deutsche User Gruppe!
>> http://www.pyconuk.org/video/dug_greeting.m4v
>>
>>
>>>
>>> * Python Italy have a list of everyone who has gone to their
>>> conference, this is gold dust, as these people have already been
>>> willing to go to a Python conference. We should ask for the list, or
>>> for them to send something to it. I would even consider a (small)
>>> special offer for those who have been to PyCon Italy before, anything
>>> which gets us noticed on the PyCon Italy list.
>>>
>>
>> I think Jacob and Laura are going to PyCon IT, maybe they can get some
>> interest, we did send vouchers as a prize last year, but I don't think
>> they were used.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> * PyCon France is 30-31 May, which kind of steals our thunder a little
>>> there, it will be difficult to get mindshare with another conference
>>> first. So to make up for it, ideally we would have someone there in
>>> PyCon France at a stall with a laptop to guide people to make bookings
>>> on the spot, perhaps with a special show offer (e.g. £10 off the
>>> standard rate).
>>>
>>
>> Nicolas?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, people like me in the UK are the least well placed to
>>> do much of this. But we should try to contact people to help us in
>>> these specific ways.
>>>
>>
>> I'd hoped to go to PyCon IT but it's in the middle of payroll yearend
>> chaos, so I doubt that I will.
>>
>> John
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