Hello,

Thanks for the wiki pointers: also there's quite a lot on pyconuk
pages, plus our old meeting minutes.

2009/3/17 Paul Boddie <[email protected]>:
> On Monday 16 March 2009 00:39:33 John Pinner wrote:
>>
>> 2009/3/15 Martin P. Hellwig <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > I think not longer then one month after this years so we still have
>> > freshly in our memory what worked and what not.
>>
>> I think that after this year's, you want to know about organising
>> conferences for a few months!
>
> Although it's tiring work, there's always stuff to do after the conference,
> anyway. I was uploading pictures and doing other things after last year's
> conference, and I think it makes sense to get stuff written up if anyone has
> the time and energy for it.
>
>> > This also gives us the
>> > opportunity to spam a lot sooner but still stay relative.
>> >
>> > I think we can conclude that the extra early bird works very well, what
>> > we could consider is starting it earlier, but stopping it earlier too.
>> > With the lessons learned till now and what comes in the future it might
>> > be handy to create a sort of procedure handbook. I am more then happy to
>> > make a first draft.
>>
>> We already have quite a bit on various wikis: that would make a good
>> starting point.
>
> I think people should take a look at the following pages. For publicity:
>
> http://www.europython2008.eu/Planning/Publicity
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations (mostly copied
> into the above)
>
> For general volunteer/planning information:
>
> http://www.europython2008.eu/Volunteers
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007
>
> For attendee information:
>
> http://www.europython2008.eu/Planning/Projections
>
> (My quick attendee counting script suggests that last year we had 76 people
> from Lithuania and 29 from Poland, which we may not be able to match this
> year.)
>
> In order to inform the annual "bikeshed" discussion about software, I wrote up
> this page some time ago:
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/SoftwareRequirements
>
> Some very useful material has been written up on the subject of running
> conferences:
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvocacyWritingTasks/RunningAConference
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/ConventionHowto
>
>> > For me I already got some things I want to do for next years EP:
>> > - Subscribing to all python mailing list that are (vaguely) related to
>> > the EU with the publicity@ account.
>> > - Reviewing the publicity mail templates and make them a bit more future
>> > proof.
>
> I found that drafting templates on a Wiki and getting them reviewed (typically
> by Dave!) was the best approach. On that front, I'm aiming to get another
> article in the Python Papers about EuroPython which might do some good.
>
>> > Mailing lists are only getting to a small percentage of python users who
>> > may be interested to come.
>> > But they are convenient and cheap! I think that any other ways of getting
>> > more 'forced' publicity (that is forced we need to do initiate it) will
>> > be costing a significant amount of money with probably limited effect.
>
> The publicity pages mentioned above have some ideas, some of which we took
> from the PyCon publicity lists. Last year, I more or less expected people to
> suggest more and better places to publicise the conference, but no-one really
> said anything.
>
>> > However once we have a good turn up we might think about 'loyalty'
>> > bonuses, like a voucher that will get them rebate for their next EP
>> > conference. Also 'recruiting' local publicity managers at the conference
>> > might be a good idea (I volunteer) since till now we have only a limited
>> > number of people handling publicity. Key people would be the ones that
>> > work at a large python shop, universities and write articles for relevant
>> > magazines,
>>
>> We've just gained a podcast (linuxoutlaws) podcasts may be the easiest
>> way to reach large numbers.
>
> I've got EuroPython mentioned on the Python 411 podcast, and since Michael
> Foord is mentioned every week on that podcast, I think we have our feet in
> the door. Such podcasts are good ways to get people acquainted with the
> community and, of course, its celebrities. ;-)
>
>> > but at this
>> > stage I have to say anybody will do :-)
>> >
>> > I am afraid that any other method of getting more publicity will cost
>> > money and I am not sure that when there is any money left we should spend
>> > it on publicity.
>>
>> Agreed. In my experience paid publicity doesn't work. The best is
>> word-of-mouth.
>
> It would be interesting to know how people found out about EuroPython. This is
> a survey question, usually, isn't it?

Nowadays it's on the shopping cart:

Where Delegates Heard of EuroPython 2009

SOURCE                   NUMBER

I came last year       :  66 (45.21%)
Other                  :  25 (17.12%)
>From a friend          :  20 (13.70%)
python-uk mailing list :  17 (11.64%)
python.org             :   9 ( 6.16%)
lug mailing list       :   5 ( 3.42%)
Web search             :   4 ( 2.74%)


> [...]
>
>> > I hope that other people have better ideas then me, otherwise we are
>> > doomed ;-)
>
> I don't think you're short of ideas, Martin. I think it's really a question of
> deciding how to publicise the conference and then just doing it - "executing"
> as the business people like to say.

John
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