I'm answered marc in PVT... but my opinion is that both teams should have the right to answer in public if they think that something in their proposals was misunderstood.....
2009/10/28 Laura Creighton <[email protected]> > In a message of Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:40:23 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: > >Laura Creighton wrote: > >> In a message of Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:16:32 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes > >: > >>> Laura Creighton wrote: > >>>> The good news is that both bids have sent me great updated bids. > >>> > >>> Could you please let us know where to find those updated > >>> files ? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> -- > >>> Marc-Andre Lemburg > >>> eGenix.com > >> > >> Thank you. I forgot to post the update. They are at > >> http://www2.openend.se/~lac/EP2011<http://www2.openend.se/%7Elac/EP2011> > > > >Thanks. > > > >Regarding the budgets: > > > >There are significant differences in the figures for sponsors... > >I don't know how much sponsor money we got for EPC 2009, but the > >EUR 20,000 figure used by the German proposal looks more realistic > >compared to the EUR 73,000 figure in the Italian one. > > > >The Italian proposal uses EUR 56,000 as estimate for the attendee > >fees, the German one EUR 87,000. Again, it would be interesting > >to see what the figure was for EPC 2009. > > > >I guess it'd be safer to budget with the German attendee > >fees and sponsoring income, which results in a revenue of > >about EUR 107,000. > > > >This results in a slight loss compared to the costs in the German > >proposal, and probably also in the Italian (after factoring in > >the missing cost factors that the German one mentions). > > > >-- > >Marc-Andre Lemburg > >eGenix.com > > I think that the only way to go is to make a budget with 'what we > will do with 0 amount of sponsorship' and then build a progressive > 'and what we will add' (or how we will decrease attendence fees) > based on successive amounts of raising funding. > > How much money you raise depends on how much money companies are > willing to spend, and this seems to have more to do with whether > they are hiring this year more than anything else. > > On the other hand, I already know that the Italians are better at > raising money for PyCON Italia than all of us are at raising money > for EuroPython. So, while I know that I cannot raise 73,000 Euros > for Europython, I hesitate to conclude anything about that except > that I am particularly bad at fund raising, something I already > knew. > > Laura > _______________________________________________ > Europython-improve mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve > -- Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction.
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