Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:40:23 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: >> Laura Creighton wrote: >>> In a message of Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:16:32 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes >> : >>>> Laura Creighton wrote: >>>>> The good news is that both bids have sent me great updated bids. >>>> >>>> Could you please let us know where to find those updated >>>> files ? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -- >>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg >>>> eGenix.com >>> >>> Thank you. I forgot to post the update. They are at >>> http://www2.openend.se/~lac/EP2011 >> >> Thanks. >> >> Regarding the budgets: >> >> There are significant differences in the figures for sponsors... >> I don't know how much sponsor money we got for EPC 2009, but the >> EUR 20,000 figure used by the German proposal looks more realistic >> compared to the EUR 73,000 figure in the Italian one. >> >> The Italian proposal uses EUR 56,000 as estimate for the attendee >> fees, the German one EUR 87,000. Again, it would be interesting >> to see what the figure was for EPC 2009. >> >> I guess it'd be safer to budget with the German attendee >> fees and sponsoring income, which results in a revenue of >> about EUR 107,000. >> >> This results in a slight loss compared to the costs in the German >> proposal, and probably also in the Italian (after factoring in >> the missing cost factors that the German one mentions). >> >> -- >> Marc-Andre Lemburg >> eGenix.com > > I think that the only way to go is to make a budget with 'what we > will do with 0 amount of sponsorship' and then build a progressive > 'and what we will add' (or how we will decrease attendence fees) > based on successive amounts of raising funding.
+1 > How much money you raise depends on how much money companies are > willing to spend, and this seems to have more to do with whether > they are hiring this year more than anything else. > > On the other hand, I already know that the Italians are better at > raising money for PyCON Italia than all of us are at raising money > for EuroPython. So, while I know that I cannot raise 73,000 Euros > for Europython, I hesitate to conclude anything about that except > that I am particularly bad at fund raising, something I already > knew. Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that the Italiens or Germans cannot raise the sponsor fees they have in their budget. What I wanted to say is that if you use the same numbers for attendee and sponsor fees in both budgets, you end up with more or less the same results, so in the end, the budget is not that much of a decision factor anymore - making the decision even more difficult. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 28 2009) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ _______________________________________________ Europython-improve mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
