As far as consciousness is concerned, you've done your research on AG and 
determined his creation was remarkably similar to yours. Hence, if you 
consider yourself conscious, you can extend that belief to AG. Generally, 
that in principle is what we humans habitually do. But AI does not fall 
into this category of YOUR knowing. To equate your knowledge of AG with AI 
is just a foolish extrapolation. AG

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 5:03:26 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:52 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> JC: I just insist that it's equally logical for me to conclude an AI 
>> is conscious as it is for me to conclude that Alan Grayson is conscious. 
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> >*AG: That's wrong.*
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> So  Alan Grayson is not conscious, not even when he's not sleeping or 
> under anesthesia or dead? Well OK, as the world's greatest expert on Alan 
> Grayson you'd know more about that than I do. 
>
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