I disagree, and your remark singles out the problem with the bird's eye/frog view of Tegmark. Those two views remains "third person point of views". Consciousness is intrinsically a first person view. You cannot describe it in any third person point of view. This explains why the Aristotelians want so much eliminate consciousness. But you are right for memories and the the possible discourse *about* consciousness, this can be compared to marks on some block-structure. Consciousness itself will be more a "distributed" logical feature in the whole of the block reality. Consciousness, even consciousness of time and space, is not something you can effectively relate to time and space. Assuming comp you can relate it to fixed point of self- observation and other "logical" (but non geometrical) things. Then discourses made by conscious entities have themselves invariant pattern, like "we cannot define it", "we cannot explain it " that you can (with luck) recognize in the (more geometrical) marks.
Bruno Marchal On 03 Jan 2009, at 06:46, Thomas Laursen wrote: > > If I understand the "standard" MWI right (with my layman brain) Abram > Demski's view of time is very much in accordance with it, except that > time should be looked at simply as a fourth space dimension. A bird's > eye view on the whole universe (= all it's "actualized" worlds) would > be like a static picture where, lets say, the beginning (big bang) is > at the left side (or right if you're Chinese), the present in the > middle, and the future at the right. Of course this (2-dimensional) > picture is extremely simplified but the idea behind is true (if I > understand Everett and others, mainly Deutsch and Tegmark in their > popular papers, right). Memory is then nothing but "marks" in the > brain, and consciousness just like other moving things in nature with > a (relatively) stable structure (a body, river, plant, etc), only more > complex. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
