On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> But if a computer beats you at an intelligent task, it would have to be
> programmed to do so.
>

And you would have to be educated to do so.

    > which means that its intelligence would be that of the programmer.


Then how can the computer beat that very same programer?

> Computers cannot make free choices


Computers can do things for a reason or they can do things for no reason
(if they have a simple hardware random number generator), and that makes
them absolutely no different than you.

> they have no intelligence.
>

I don't think you really want to say that because they just beat you at a
intellectual task, so if they have zero intelligence then the only logical
conclusion to make is that your intelligence is less than zero.

>>>  free will
>>>
>> >> What a odd sequence of ASCII characters, perhaps your keyboard had a
>> malfunction.
>>
> > ?
>

!


> >  I already asked you how you would determine the intelligence of a
> computer but your answer made no sense.
>

I replied to your question with "I detect consciousness in computers the
exact same way I determine it in my fellow human beings, I guess. I guess
that if they're behaving intelligently then they're conscious".  What word
didn't you understand?

  John K Clark

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