On 16 Mar 2017, at 00:42, Brent Meeker wrote:
"Emulated" would mean we're "really" computed somewhere else.
Emulation is just a 100% exact simulation. That notion makes sense in
the digital frame, and indeed the Universal Dovetailer (alias the true
sigma_1 sentences) emulates everything emulable, that is all program
executions (and thus ourselves in the case there is a human
computationalist substitution level).
Now most truth *about* the digital machines are not emulable by any
machine: the arithmetical truth is far bigger that the computable
arithmetical truth. As I said, a part of physics has to be not
emulable, if computationalism is correct. Physics is a first person
plural phenomenon, and the first person is not only not emulable by
machine, but not even definable by machine (assuming computationalism).
Bruno
Brent
On 3/15/2017 3:28 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
Where does Bruno say we are living in a simulation? He says we are
more likely emulated.
K
On 16 Mar 2017, at 8:57 am, Bruce Kellett
<bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Sabine Hossenfelder has an interesting blog post about the popular
idea that we are living in a simulation created by some super-
intelligence somewhere. She is not impressed with the idea....
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2017/03/
I think she makes some good points. Maybe Wolfram and Bruno should
listen in....
Bruce
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