This was beautiful, Rick. I disagree with the devotional path and so many of 
your beliefs, but there must be something you are doing right to have such 
beautiful experiences. I feel the same about Flanegin. I learn from you guys at 
the same time as I debate you. My understanding is an evolving thing, and I 
still have lots to make sense of in my world view. Thanks for reflecting on 
these topics with me. .   
   
  
  As I mentioned in another post, I’ve been out of town for a week, visiting 
in-laws in Seattle. Being on vacation and out of the usual routines was enough 
to ramp up the unboundedness considerably. My infinite nature and my individual 
nature were kind of on equal footing, see-sawing back and forth gently all 
week. To use a metaphor (not a literal description) , the unboundedness was 
like a constant tone. If there’s a constant tone playing, you don’t hear it 
after a while, even though it’s still there, but you can hear it again any time 
you choose to put your attention on it. Of course, in this case, the “tone” was 
bliss – so my attention would effortlessly be drawn back to it again and again. 
It didn’t matter how busy my surroundings were – Pike’s market was as conducive 
as a ferry ride or a beach. This experience gave rise to the thought that if 
unboundedness were to dawn suddenly, as it seems to have done for many 
spiritual teachers, one could easily feel that an
 individual “me” no longer existed. I think that if it dawns more gradually, 
over decades of meditation practice, as in my case, this is less likely to 
happen. For me, there does not appear to be any incompatibility between my 
individual nature with its thoughts, desires and activities, and my unbounded 
nature, which is like a soft cushion of bliss. The two are indeed paradoxical – 
they seem to exist in different dimensions – but they coexist in perfect 
harmony. It is clear that there is no “me” which “gets” enlightened, but that 
does not mean that there is no “me.”
   
   

       
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