Some of you are a little hasty in drawing conclusions about what I've said so 
far and even the nature of my mind.  So far, all I've done is drawn a few 
comparisons that life and study have presented me with.  I have not drawn any 
of many possible conclusions that could be drawn from these comparisons.  It's 
a big topic, and a little too early to dismiss it as unworthy of 
considerations.  I've barely laid the groundwork. a

feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               How many 
atrocities have been committed by TMers? 
 
 Your reasoning reminds me of the Rodney King trial in LA in 1992, when
 the defense managed to deconstruct the case to the extent that what
 was obviously true no longer appeared so. You take a few concepts and
 ideas, compare them to a few other ideas held by another group in a
 different time and culture, and then try to show how similar they are.
 What you ignore is a host of ways in which these two movements are
 completely different, and you end up making statements that are
 plainly ridiculous, not to mention offensive to the many people in
 this town who have helped to create it as the place that apparently
 you choose to live in. Anyone with an iota of balanced judgment could
 see through your arguments in a moment--a child could do so--but you,
 carried away by your own cleverness, cannot. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Research has shown again and again that ordinary folks are very
 willing to hurt others with electric shock in laboratory settings. 
 Experience has shown again and again that folks do not interfere when
 they see someone hurt someone else.  Add to that absolute devotion to
 a guru, the brainwashing of minds made susceptible through meditation
 (the beliefs about not being the doer etc), egos willing to do
 anything to prove they're enlightened, group isolation, belief in
 establishing heaven on earth, and doing God's will, and you've got a
 recipe for what happened in Germany.  Call it psychosis or what you
 will, it happened on a very large scale in Germany.  I don't think
 Germans are any more psychotic than anyone else.  We are all subject
 to social engineering when you get us young enough. a
 > 
 > jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               ---
 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
 >  <mailander111@> wrote:
 >  >
 >  > Atrocities are very possible when you believe that a) you are not 
 >  the doer, b) it's all an illusion anyway, c) the atrocities are 
 >  committed as a means to heaven on earth for a thousand years, and d) 
 >  death is not real.  a
 >  > 
 >  
 >  I think in order to commit attrocities, there has to be a fundamental 
 >  lack of empathy for our fellow human beings, and I've heard that 
 >  called sociopathy. Whatever else the sociopath uses as justification 
 >  for hurting and killing others is just rationalizing this basic lack 
 >  of empathy for others. 
 >  
 >  It doesn't follow at all thnat if we are experiencing a), b) and d) 
 >  above, that we are therefore capable of comitting attrocities. As for 
 >  c), that sounds psychotic.
 >  
 >  
 >      
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