Hi Torsten et al., As mentioned by others, I do believe that this is quite a nice selection. But, I think that we should consider our original intentions for rotating the aircraft selection. By changing the selection, we have a nice platform to showcase some of the recent development and highlight some recent development work that clearly stands out from the rest. Also, IIRC, we should try to find aircraft that provide a good, intuitive initial experience. As such, the selection should consist of overall high-quality aircraft, that are realistic, yet at the same time should be relatively easy to use (i.e., no requirement for reading lenghty manuals on engine startup, but having an auto-start feature, etc etc).
With the above in mind, let me quickly comment on the current selection, and see if I can come up with some suggestions. On 03 Jul 2011, at 17:08, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Let's start our traditional discussion about what aircraft should be in the > base package of the next release (2.4.0). > > We currently have > - 777-200 As far as I can tell, the 777 is still the best in it's class. Compared to a couple of years ago, the Airliners category has changed considerably, however, and this year I would say that for the first time the 777 actually has serious competition (The ATR, CRJ, Airbus A320 family, and the entire Boeing 7?7 series to name but a few). After the most recent update, I believe that the 777 is still the best in it's class thought. > - A6M2 Possibly one candidate we could replace. I like the the A6M2, but I don't recall that it has seen much development recently. In terms of graphics, the IAR-80 (as mentioned by others) is just insane (and I mean this in a very positive affectionate way). I would consider replacing the A6M2 with the IAR-80, although I still need to check whether it would qualify as a beginners level aircraft. > - b1900d Still one of our better crafted aircraft. I currently don't have a suggestion for a replacement. > - bo105 This is an interesting case. As our original helicopter, it's famed for it's accurate FDM. But, considering how long the bo105 has been part of the standard fleet, and given that I've not seen much development for quite some time (correct me if I'm wrong), I wonder whether it wouldn't be time to replace it by another helicopter. The ec130, and ec135 have excellent graphical qualities. Swapping the bo105 with one of the eurocopters might result in trading in some accuracy for improved graphics, but my understanding it that the eurocopter FDM's are still very good and close to the originals. > - c172p No chance of replacing this unless somebody volunteers to rewrite the manual. > - CitationX A nice aircraft, and actually it's been one of my favorites for some time. But, compared to some other more recently developed aircraft, I'm beginning to find it a little unremarkable these days. I also find that it's class (small commuter jet) has considerable overlap with some other aircraft (airliner, twin prop). Maybe we can replace this with a historic aircraft. The Lockheed 1049H constellation by Gary Neely comes to mind, but I have to check whether I could find another candidate). > - Dragonfly A nice ultralight, but also one that hasn't undergone substantial changes in the last few years. Would the dromador be an interesting replacement candidate? > - dhc2 Nice rugged bushplance. Float and wheels version. Very complete and aerotowing compatible. Not sure whether there would be a replacement candidate that satisfies all these criteria. But, I'll have a look later. > - f-14b The MiG-15 comes to mind in terms of completeness, but I'm not sure whether it is carrier compatible. As far as I know, the f-14b is still our top jet fighter. > - Cub Very nice and recently very accurately remodelled aircraft. I would certainly vote to keep this. > - SenecaII One of the very few aircraft that has nearly every switch modelled and working like the reallife counterpart. I wonder who made modelled it so carefully. On the downside, the visual model hasn't been touched appreciately in the last few years. With regard to the latter, the Aerostar could be a candidate. > - sopwithCamel Still one of the best historic aircraft. Very detailed modeling. I can't say much about systems and FDM thought. > - ufo We need this as a gadget and as a modeling tool > - ZLT-NT Probably still the best in it's class. There's also a historic (1930's0 zeppelin (the Nordstern), which I personally like very much, but I don't think that model is as advanced of the of the ZLT-NT. > > Should we change this setup? > In addition to the list mentioned by Torsten, I do believe that we have a glider. IIRC, we included the Bocian in previous releases. I replacing the bocian as suggested in an earlier mail would be okay by me. Cheers, Durk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
