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5 8 2010
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> Datum: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:16:25 +0800 (SGT)
> Von: Wal Suparmo <wal.supa...@yahoo.com>
> An: Forum-Pembaca-Kompas@yahoogroups.com
> CC: manneke budiman <hepaest...@yahoo.ca>
> Betreff: Bls: [Forum-Pembaca-KOMPAS] Re: Landmarks Commission di US
> mengizinkan pembangunan mesjid di groud zero
>
>
>
> Salam,
> Sejak USA berdiri didiamkannya ( diizinkannya) timbuknya nabi2
> amatiran yang memlintir dan mengexport agama Kristen dan timbulnya
> berbagai CULT dari macam2 agama.
>
> Wasalam,
> Wal Suparmo
>
> --- Pada Rab, 4/8/10, manneke budiman <hepaest...@yahoo.ca> menulis:
>
> Dari: manneke budiman <hepaest...@yahoo.ca>
> Judul: [Forum-Pembaca-KOMPAS] Re: Landmarks Commission di US mengizinkan
> pembangunan mesjid di groud zero
> Kepada: Forum-Pembaca-Kompas@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 4 Agustus, 2010, 3:16 AM
>
>
>
> Seandainya saja penguasa Indonesia bisa bersikap dewasa dan tegas
> seperti ini dalam mengayomi dan melindungi kaum minoritas beragama.
>
> Tanpa memedulikan protes dari kaum konservatif, Landmarks Commission
> kota NY beserta walikotanya membela rencana pembangunan mesjid di bekas
> reruntuhan WTC di NY. Baca argumentasi dan rasional mereka, sungguh
> mengharukan.
>
> Beda 180 derajat dengan sikap para penguasa di negeri ini, dari
> presidennya sampai bupati dan walikotanya :(
>
> manneke
>
> Panel's landmark denial frees NY mosque site
>
>
>
> 34 minutes ago
>
> By Karen Matthews, The Associated Press
>
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> NEW YORK, N.Y. - Ignoring jeers and cries of "Shame on you," a city
> commission on Tuesday denied landmark status to a building near the World
> Trade Center site that can now be demolished to make way for an Islamic
> community centre and mosque.
>
>
> The Landmarks Preservation Commission said in voting 9-0 that the
> 152-year-old building isn't distinctive enough to qualify as a landmark.
>
> "This is not a building of special esthetic character," said
> Commissioner Diana Chapin, echoing the remarks of her colleagues.
>
>
> The property is two blocks north of the site of the World Trade Center,
> which was destroyed in Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. Landmarks
> Commissioner Stephen Byrns said the building's proximity to the site, and
> the fact that it was struck by airplane debris during the attacks, does
> not qualify it as a landmark.
>
>
> The proposed mosque has emerged as a national political issue, with
> prominent Republicans from Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to former House
> Speaker Newt Gingrich lining up against it. The Anti-Defamation League,
> the nation's most prominent Jewish civil rights group, also opposes it.
>
>
> Former Rep. Rick Lazio, a Republican who is running for governor of New
> York, attended the commission meeting and criticized the group that is
> building the mosque, the Cordoba Initiative.
>
> "This is not about religion," Lazio said. "It's about this particular
> mosque called the Cordoba Mosque, it's about it being at ground zero,
> it's about it being spearheaded by an imam who has associated himself
> with radical Islamic causes and has made comments that should chill every
> single American, frankly."
>
>
> Lazio said the group's imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, had refused to call the
> Palestinian group Hamas a terrorist organization. Rauf also had said in a
> "60 Minutes" interview televised shortly after 9/11 that "United States
> policies were an accessory to the crime that happened."
>
>
> Cordoba Initiative staff members did not immediately answer an email
> seeking a response to Lazio's comments.
>
>
> Daisy Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim
> Advancement, was quoted in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday as saying
> the centre's board will include members of other religions and will
> explore including an interfaith chapel at the centre.
>
> "We want to repair the breach and be at the front and centre to start
> the healing," said Khan, a partner in the building and the wife of the
> imam.
>
>
> New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, speaking on Governor's Island
> against the backdrop of the Statue of Liberty, praised the commission's
> ruling.
>
>
> "This building is private property and the owners have a right to use
> the building as a house of worship," Bloomberg said. "The government has
> no right whatsoever to deny that right, and if it were tried, the court
> would almost certainly strike it down as a violation of the U.S.
> constitution."
>
>
> Bloomberg said the firefighters and other first responders who died in
> the 2001 attacks had done so to protect the constitution. To deny
> religious freedom to Muslims would play into the terrorists' hands, he
> said. "In rushing into those burning buildings, not one asked, 'What god
> do you pray to? What beliefs do you hold?'" Bloomberg said of the first
> responders. "We do not honour their lives by denying the very
> constitutional rights they died protecting."
>
>
> The commission's decision not to designate the existing building as a
> landmark means that the developers can tear it down and start from
> scratch. If the building had been declared a landmark, they could have
> created a smaller mosque and community centre there.
>
>
> SoHo Properties, a partner in the project, purchased the property for
> nearly $5 million. Early plans call for a 13-story, $100 million Islamic
> centre, of which the mosque would be a part.
> SoHo Properties CEO Sharif El-Gamal said he was "deeply grateful to the
> landmarks commission and to its staff." He did not respond to a question
> about the timing of demolition and construction.
>
> Foes of the proposed mosque say it insults the memory of those who died
> on Sept. 11, 2001, at the hands of Muslim extremists.
>
> As the landmarks commission met, some in the audience waved signs. Linda
> Rivera's sign read, "Don't glorify murders of 3,000. No 9/11 victory
> mosque." She cried after the board's vote. "I lost 3,000 American
> brothers and sisters, including courageous policemen and firemen, and
> this is a betrayal," she said.
>
> Others said they supported the mosque.
>
> Zead Ramadan, president of the board of the New York chapter of the
> Council on American Islamic Relations, said Islam is "a religion of peace
> and justice."
>
> "The people here are trying to connect this vile attack on our nation to
> the religion Islam, though that exact act stands against everything that
> Islam stands for," he said.
>
> The conservative public-interest law firm the American Center for Law
> and Justice, founded in 1990 by evangelist Pat Robertson, vowed to fight
> Tuesday's decision in court.
>
> ACLJ attorney Brett Joshpe said the group would file a petition in New
> York State Supreme Court on Wednesday alleging that the landmarks panel
> "acted arbitrarily and abused its discretion."
>
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