On 6/18/13 11:07 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
The ARRL http://www.arrl.org/ licenses amateur radio operators. They are non-governmental but I think the FCC has to OK the levels of the examination.

Let's say that the PRISM accusations are true, and that Microsoft was first on board providing compromised services and software to the NSA. Why would anyone then believe that any sort of Microsoft Certified Solutions Whatever should be any indication of expertise in ensuring security as opposed to merely giving the appearance of security (except for the NSA)? Such `experts' are, well, stooges. Same goes for Cisco, Oracle certifications etc. You can extrapolate that all the way to universities funded on the public dime. `Educators' are just as well subject to influence through funding [dis]incentives as anyone -- and that possibility is _truly_ insidious.

Organizations like the EFF seems about the best bet, since they are focused on this issue. That also makes their leadership targets, should they gain larger popularity.

The first thing that has to go if people want privacy are their proprietary operating systems. In the open source community, where people actually care about this stuff, they bother to debate it in an open way. Personally I'm less afraid of the NSA than opportunistic sharing of things like medical data, financial information by corporations, say to reduce insurance payouts. Deals completely behind the scenes and deniable.

I get the impression that many people accept the story that the policies and laws are what matter and not the deployed capabilities. It's a remarkable mistake.

Marcus

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