Hello,

Sorry about that, but I was a little bit skeptical about Zend_Entity in the
first place. Mainly, as known now, because there was only one person
actually doing it and therefore it seemed literally impossible to complete
it in a reasonable amount of time and maintain a good code quality in the
future. That's why I chose Doctrine a while back.

I had a few talks about the fact that zf tries to have too much components
in it (that's another topic) and always believed that it can replace some of
them by 3rdparty ones. The fact, that Doctrine is chosen is wonderful for me
- two brilliant libraries with good developers teams on both sides also.

I have been using it with zf for quite a long time and tried a lot of
different components with it (Models, Forms, Services, Paginator, Auth+Acl,
etc.) so I'm up to contribute to this proposal when it becomes available.

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Juozas Kaziukėnas (juo...@juokaz.com)
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
<matt...@zend.com>wrote:

> -- Georgy Turevich <georgy.turev...@gmail.com> wrote
> (on Friday, 30 October 2009, 11:31 AM +0300):
> > I have not understood. The component will be developed by other people?
> Or it
> > is discontinue for ever?
>
> Discontinued.
>
> All development was being done basically by Benjamin himself, and my
> team is simply too small for me to provide him much additional support
> without having it affect other projects. We have considered in the past
> writing an ORM, and the conclusion has always been that we do not have
> either enough expertise or resources on our team to undertake it. I was
> willing to let it be a community effort, but it would have taken a
> dedicated team of volunteers (a) to make it happen in a reasonable time
> frame, and (b) to provide ongoing support for it.
>
> Benjamin got to a point where he realized he'd finished about 50% of
> functionality, and likely had another 4-6 months before it was
> releasable. At that point, we'd be gearing up for ZF 2.0, which would
> mean he'd need to start rewriting to make use of PHP 5.3 features. It
> was simply a very daunting task, and one he wasn't getting much help
> with.
>
> Additionally, there's the fact that Doctrine is becoming a key part of
> the greater PHP ecosystem. Agavi and Symfony ship with it. I've seen
> tutorials for using it with CodeIgniter, Cake (and the new offshoot,
> Lithium), and of course ZF. Considering that many developers will be
> using it in other projects, it makes for a natural migration point --
> migrate your models from one framework to another in order to make use
> of a different MVC or components. It simply makes sense *not* to
> reinvent the wheel here, and instead spend some time doing formal
> integration with Doctrine in order to leverage its community of
> developers.
>
> --
> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> Project Lead            | matt...@zend.com
> Zend Framework          | http://framework.zend.com/
>

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