:Hi Jean, Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I'll put the proposal on the wiki as soon as I have some time - I'm off to The Server Side in Prague tomorrow, so whether it will be this week I don't know :)
Regards, Cees On 6/14/08, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Cees, > > JDBM certainly looks interesting! > > One clarification about process is the project would still enter > incubation, but sponsored by Apache DB. On graduation, it would then > join Apache DB as a subproject -- or possibly even as its own top level > project. (For example, Apache Derby and JDO were sponsored by Apache DB, > and graduated as DB subprojects. Apache Cayenne was sponsored by Apache > DB, but graduated as a TLP. ) Exact destination gets determined at > graduation time -- but talk of graduation is leaping way too far ahead > for this discussion. :-) > > The Incubator proposal template will help guide discussion on this list: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#proposal-template > > You can add a JDBM proposal to the Incubator wiki: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ > > I'd especially like to hear more about your thoughts regarding this comment: > >> There have been some concerns about the continuity of the package, >> although the original contributors are still active. > > Apache is about community -- and no project graduates from the Incubator > without demonstrating that it has a community diverse and strong enough > to manage that code base moving forward. You stated a commitment to keep > JDBM alive -- how about the other contributors? --I'm keying in on this > risk mentioned in the template: > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-orphaned-products > >> I sincerely hope the Apache DB project will consider adoption of the code >> base. >> > > Again, Apache is about communities. We just need to make sure that > everyone understands that. > > Since I pulled out a couple comments, possibly without adequate context, > I'm including your entire original post down below. > > I look forward to hearing more about JDBM. > > regards, > > -jean > > Cees de Groot wrote: >> (Currently: http://jdbm.sourceforge.net/) >> >> JDBM is an 8-year old open source library currently under a custom >> (original-BSD-style) license created by me in 2000 as the result of >> some chat with folks from Intalio and extended by a number of persons >> since then, most notably Alex Boisvert. It mainly aims to give similar >> functionality as GDBM but it adds transactions and btrees/htrees. As >> its goals were (and are) simplicity and robustness, after an initial >> flurry of development the package has been mostly stable and is in >> use/has been used by a number of high profile projects >> (http://jdbm.sourceforge.net/JDBM-Powered.html). >> >> There have been some concerns about the continuity of the package, >> although the original contributors are still active. ApacheDS already >> includes a (temprary) fork in the code base, and the main question the >> mailing list receives is along the line "does it still work?" (answer: >> yes, it does - that fact that the stable release is 3 years old means >> that we haven't received any serious bug reports since then, I figure >> ;-)). >> >> While we were discussing the future of JDBM on SourceForge (people >> want to move to Codehaus because of the better tools), Emmanuel >> Lecharny (ApacheDS) suggested that we'd consider Apache DB as a new >> home, and I think it is an extremely good idea for obvious reasons >> (continuity, exposure, peace of mind for Apache DS and other users). >> >> JDBM still fills a good niche, IMO, and would be a worthwhile addition >> to the Apache DB project. At the moment, I'm busy modernizing JDBM: >> - Move from Ant to Maven (mostly done); >> - Move from Junit3 to Junit4; >> - Move to JDK1.5+, most notably by adding generics. >> - Move from jdbm.* to a package name that is in accordance with the >> rules of ibiblio et al. for release. >> - Re-license under ASL/MIT/BSD ("something in that particular corner >> of the open source licensing jungle"). >> The first three points are underway, the package rename depends >> partially on its new home, and re-licensing requires some discussion >> and a vote but the contributors so far are quite relaxed on licensing >> (how refreshing!). >> >> Personally, as OC, I am very much committed to keeping JDBM alive. I >> have a bit over 2 decades of experience with working in Free >> Software/Open Source Software environments (starting with an fast >> ANSI.SYS replacement, distributed over Fidonet, in the '80s :)), among >> others I contributed to early Linux kernels, helped with the port of >> Java to Linux as a member of the Blackdown team, ran the >> Linuxdoc/SGMLtools projects and I have been active in various >> Smalltak-related communities, most notably the Squeak community >> (squeak.org). So I hope I qualify the "open source experience" >> requirement. As to the other main contributors, I leave it to them to >> chime in. >> >> I sincerely hope the Apache DB project will consider adoption of the code >> base. >> >> Regards, >> >> Cees >> > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com "Any sufficiently advanced form of music is indistinguishable from metal" -- free after A.C.Clarke
