On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim, all,
>>> 
>>> 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's
>>>>> recommendation, than taxes.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've been told that Oracle and TDF *were* in discussions but
>>>> that the demands by TDF were sufficiently unpalatable to Oracle
>>>> as to prevent any sort of agreement... IBM may have strongly
>>>> suggested the ASF as a backup, but we were the runner-up in
>>>> a sense. Taxes were not an issue...
>>>> 
>>> I do not see where the demands were "unpalatable":
>>> 
>> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/06/publishing-our-recommendation-to-oracle/
>>> 
>>> TDF just refused to pay for anything which is under contract of Oracle.
>>> 
>> 
>> Thx for the link. It is good to see TDF opening up regarding
>> what their original request was to Oracle. Subsequent discussions,
>> of course, are not known but so what. They are moot. For whatever
>> reason, Oracle did not think that TDF was the right place. That
>> ship has sailed. Time to figure out what to do now.
>> 
> 
> I asked, and apparently there were no subsequent discussions.  But I agree,
> this ship has sailed and I'd be pleased to see this all move into a
> podlet...

I asked as well as was told otherwise... but again, it's moot.
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