On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <n...@devtech.com> wrote: >> >> We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own. As >> David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the >> Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues. The Incubator is almost >> as big as the rest of the ASF combined. David posted a plot chart >> reflecting our growth: http://incubator.apache.org/history/ > > Excellent plot chart. As with most plot charts, the end result is a > Rorschach test. I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart: > a failure to perform garbage collection. My personal perspective is > that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year. That > doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases, > some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is > that those should be the exception rather than the rule. > > Looking at the current list of projects, we have many that exceed that > number. Far exceed that number. In fact the median age is 416 days > and the mean age is 536. > > People here may disagree with my arbitrary date, and that's OK. But > my feeling is that there needs to be an expectation that a podling > produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they are executing > on which will lead to graduation at some point. If they fail to > produce such a plan, or fail to execute on that plan (within reason), > they should be asked to explain themselves. If they fail to do so, > the incubation at the ASF should cease. > > At the moment, the expectation is that the mentors be the ones to take > up this task. For whatever reason, that isn't reliably being done. > This causes the board to complain periodically. I am of the belief > that the first level of culling needs to be performed at the Incubator > level. If we need to appoint a set of grim reapers, lets do so, and I > will volunteer to be a part of such an effort. > > Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki. If others wish to join > me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating > more than a year: > > 2007-09-17 JSPWiki > 2008-01-06 RAT > 2008-05-20 Hama > 2008-07-08 Empire-db > 2008-08-19 PhotArk > 2008-09-02 Etch > 2008-09-04 Tashi > 2008-09-29 Olio > 2008-10-06 VCL > 2008-10-09 Droids > 2008-11-06 Kato > 2008-11-19 Stonehenge > 2009-04-24 Ace > 2009-05-27 Wink > 2009-07-06 VXQuery > 2009-07-17 Wookie > 2009-11-05 HISE > 2009-11-27 Clerezza > 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF) > 2010-02-21 SIS > 2010-03-01 Bean Validation > 2010-05-09 Amber > 2010-05-19 Deltacloud > 2010-05-21 Zeta Components > 2010-06-24 Nuvem > 2010-07-14 Chukwa > 2010-07-22 Lucy > 2010-08-13 NPanday > 2010-09-07 Isis > 2010-09-26 Gora > 2010-10-03 Kitty > 2010-11-02 Celix > 2010-11-15 Stanbol > > - Sam Ruby >
Maybe I've had been using a high bar with the podlings I mentor/participate. I'll look into graduating couple podlings after I come back from Thanks Giving : Apache PhotArk, Apache Wink. -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
