Hi, Given I assume there are other contributors why not make them initial commitors? Thanks, Justin
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, 10:45 Duo Zhang, <zhang...@apache.org> wrote: > The proposal on the wiki page has already listed five initial committers. > > And I think we can let the initial committers reply here to confirm that > they will be active, at least in the early time in the incubator, before we > elect new PPMC members. > > Does this solve your concerns? Thanks Dave. > > Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>于2019年12月2日 周一01:38写道: > > > I share Ted’s concerns. > > > > It would help if the initial committer list was greater than the bare > > minimum of three. Three PPMC members is not enough. There needs to be at > > least five committers to start. > > > > (Should there be an explicit minimum in the proposal template?) > > > > It’s often the case that some initial committers do not actually > > transition to the incubating podling. > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have a > > > substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting up > > there > > > project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen before > > > incubation. > > > > > > As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation > > right > > > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries. > That > > is > > > almost certainly not true, but it can serve to illuminate the factors > > that > > > make it not true. Is the decision-making centralized? Are there > > problematic > > > thoughts about retaining a high bar to committee status? Do community > > > members automatically defer to Greg rather than move forward on > > decisions? > > > Are non-coders excluded from committer status? > > > > > > I don't know the answers to these questions, but I have a very strong > > > expectation that this will be harder to address than expected so it is > > > really good that this has already been identified and there are some > > > actions in progress. The only thing I can really add is that the > > community > > > members probably don't yet know how big a deal this will be and the > > Apache > > > folks probably assume more cultural transfer than has actually > happened. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:43 PM Justin Mclean < > jus...@classsoftware.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >>> Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent community > > >>> member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent dictator > pattern > > >> at > > >>> work here. > > >> > > >> Greg is aware of the “no dictators rule" and has already answered this > > in > > >> this thread. He willing to hand over responsibilities to the wider > > >> community and give up his trademark. > > >> > > >> Do you think it would be a good idea to change the name of the > project? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Justin > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >