2011/4/14 Thomas Beierlein <tom...@gentoo.org> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200 > Tomá? Chvátal <scarab...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the > > > written stuff. > > > > > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. > > > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what > > > your have wrote. > > > This can be a major headache if you have few systems that are doing > > > auto updates. > > > I would solve this issue by stopping the emerge and getting the > > > attention of the user. > > > If I don't get the attention of the user, no openrc will be > > > installed. It should be something like emerge -C ... 1 .2 3 4 5... > > > > > > To conclude, you can't issue such a change without proper > > > confirmation from the user. > > > > > This was discussed multiple times, news items are to be read. > > Users ignore elog informations/web announcements/... so it was agreed > > that news item is agressive enough to user so they must read it. > > If they don't do so it is just their fault. > > And no runtime changing for portage where it expect some input is > > seriously stupid idea, most of us script updates in batch and noone > > would actualy read it. > > > > Never the less as I said we expect user to read that stuff and if he > > does not he is on his own due to his dumb approach. > > Maybe we should underline our intention by having that policy > documented in the installation handbook. A good place may be section 2 > "Working with > Gentoo" (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2). > > At least all newbies will stumble upon it once. > > Regards, > Thomas. >
Yeah, before the stabilization of OpenRc and Baselayout 2.x, the Gentoo handbook really need to be updated too. I don't see how a newbie should be able to install his box with an outdated handbook. -- Salut alp Sylvain
