Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN="no" and MRPROPER="no", it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
comes genkernel --install --lvm -luks all, and I have kernel and
initramfs
And for those that like to do without genkernel? Again, adding another
layer for things to go wrong.
That's just what I do and what I know about. I'm reading about dracut
here, but I don't know how easy that is. Sure, I also wouldn't like an
additional layer, but what if there are no good alternatives?
There is alternative, get a proper fix for udev. Since udev is needed
to boot, put those files in /bin or /sbin where they should be. It's
really that simple. If they are truly opposed to that idea, have a /run
directory or something like that. Then let it be documented, FHS maybe,
that that directory has to be on / just like /bin and /sbin.
I tried genkernel. All I got was a kernel that wouldn't boot. Heck,
it barely even started to boot. The kernel wouldn't even finish
loading. After several tries, I put genkernel in the trash. It worked
a LOT better there for me. It was out of sight and mind. ;-)
Yes, I remember the discussion. But I think you used genkernel as it was
designed, to generate a new kernel .config from scratch. This is not
necessary, as I wrote above you can also make it use your
working .config. That's what I do, and it also gives me the initramfs I
need, without having to think about how it does that. I suggest you just
try it, and I'd say there is a really good chance it just works. When you
use 'genkernel --install kernel', you should get the same kernel as when
you build it manually, just with a different name. With 'genkernel
--install all', you also get the initramfs.
I can't guarantee this, though, and especially you seem to have a history
of being bitten by bugs. But then, that's what people say about me, too,
and I'm using genkernel just fine.
The point is, its one more thing to break and as Alan explains, it
breaks the tradition of what is required for booting up. I run into
enough problems already. I don't want to add yet one more, to booting
at that. I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't like init* stuff.
That is part two of not liking this idea.
I don't get this one. Why do you want to copy an existing /usr
partition to another one?
He said he wishes to move his /usr to a spare partition (the part
about KDE4)... I assume his /usr currently resides on / (or maybe a
smaller partition that he cannot easily expand).
You hit it, for some reason I put /usr on the root partition without
thinking. This is where I am now:
rootfs 19534436 10693048 8841388 55% /
Over half full. When I have a critical partition get over 60%, I start
looking for expansion. Moving /usr was my plan but someone stole that
from me I guess. Now I got to figure out what I want to do next.
Uh. So you think about leaving Gentopo, because your root partition is
barely over half full, and moving /usr somewhere else might involve an
initramfs soon? I'd just wait until it starts getting to 80-90%, and
think about it again.
Wonko
No, I'm thinking about this because one of the reasons I left binary
based distros was crap like this. I didn't like init* stuff because
they caused me grief when booting. I wasn't as skilled as I am now so I
didn't know how to fix them. Heck, I still don't and really don't want
to be forced to learn either. It's the same reason I don't use LVM. It
just adds one more layer to cause problems. I *may* use LVM for data or
something but not for anything required for booting.
I'm sort of like this. I want to be able to boot to single user at a
minimum as simple as possible. If I can do that, I can fix whatever is
broke. If I install a init* thingy and I can't boot because it got
screwed up somehow, I'm not going to be happy. I don't get mad often
but this could be much worse than hal. Given my medical situation, I
need to avoid that at all costs. One of those costs may be me picking
something else for my OS. I like Gentoo but the reasons I started using
Gentoo are slipping away. I'm running out of reasons to have this
installed. It's like having a car. If you have a old car that breaks a
lot, at some point you have to decide whether the reason you have the
car is the same as when you bought the car. If you can't depend on it
to get you where you are going, it's time for a new car. Cars are to
get a person from point A to point B for most people. I want a OS that
is simple enough to get it running but I also like the control Gentoo
offers or used to. Yea, I know, Gentoo isn't that simple but it is
simple in how it works once set up. Load grub, load kernel, start the
init process. Simple. The init* process is going to add yet one more
thing to this that shouldn't be needed. Others with more knowledge than
me have already posted better ways to fix this.
Dale
:-) :-)
