On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600 Daniel Campbell <li...@sporkbox.us> wrote:
> On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko > > <birc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>>> Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I > >>>> ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate > >>>> systemd profile for those willing to use it. > >>> > >>> Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you > >>> need to use systemd. > >> > >> Or to create a non-systemd profile :) > > > > That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's > > perfect; I'm 100% behind it. I even volunteer to help (with testing) > > to anyone going for this. > > > > You guys create a systemd-sucks-we-dont-want-it profile, and I > > promise to give you guys a hand. > > > > Make a profile that "frees" users from using systemd, and I think > > even several Gentoo developers will get behind that. > > > > Now we are talking; this has been my whole point the whole time. > > Everybody that don't want to use systemd; help this idea, and if > > there are enough of you, you'll pulled through. > > > > Regards. > > > > For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen > as the default. Gentoo is one of the last bastions of choice > available to GNU/Linux users and it would create a complete shitstorm > if systemd were pushed on Gentoo's users. You're just trying to push > systemd on one of the few distros that doesn't use it by default. Do > you hang out with John Paul Adrian Glaubitz? He's a Debian developer > who has a long-running history of pushing systemd as well. There is > nothing wrong with systemd as a choice, but to push it as the default > is ridiculous. systemd can have its own profile while the rest of the > world goes on without it. Everybody wins. > > For all this talk about technical details, > nobody seems to notice the marketing A few people including myself have noted it earlier. > that's going on and frankly it disgusts me. And me too.
