On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafl<tansta...@libertytrek.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell<li...@sporkbox.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as >>>> the default. >>> >>> >>> Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant... >>> >>> This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek >>> is >>> saying in this last rant... > > >> Tanstaafl, can we please not use terms like "rants"? I'm just giving >> my opinion, trying to be respectful and civil to the others >> participants in this thread. I would appreciate if you do the same to >> me. > > > Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read your > 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I > referred to it as a 'rant'),
Thanks for the explanation. > while I agree with most everything you said, > your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd > doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted to point > out. I still believe that a non-systemd profile should be done by the people not wanting to use systemd. But since I now support the systemd profile (since it's trivial) the point is moot. > So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very good > job of patiently spelling out the advantages of systemd, to the point I'm no > longer afraid of it taking over and devouring the linux world. Thanks. > That said, in reality, there is (or should be) nothing inherently insulting > about a claim that something you (or anyone) says was a 'rant'. Pretty much > everyone I know who has strong opinions on things like this rants all the > time. Sometimes those rants have more value/substance than others. A good > rant will provide lots of substantive supporting documentation backing up > the claims in the rant. A bad rant just makes a bunch of baseless claims > and/or personal attacks. I don't think I was shouting (which I believe is part of the "rant" definition); but whatever, I now understand you didn't mean any harm and I appreciate it. > Bottom line: since Gentoo's default and primary init system is (and > hopefully will be for a very long time) OpenRC, it is on the systemd folks > to do the work to get systemd fully supported. Which has been the case up until now. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
