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On Monday, August 17, 2020 8:00 PM, Grant Taylor 
<gtay...@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

> On 8/16/20 10:50 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> > 3.  vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may read my emails,
> >     and laugh at me!
>
> Do you have any (anecdotal) evidence that this has actually happened?

not specifically with a mail provider, but with
other i.t. services, yes.  and since they're all
humans, then the simplest model that explains this
is that this is about humans in general, and same
past experience would extend to mail provider's
admins.

> Well, seeing as how you're talking about email, the biggest elephant in
> the room is SMTP's default of unencrypted communications path. It's
> realtively easy to add support for encryption, but more systems than I'm
> comfortable with don't avail themselves of the optional encryption for
> some reason. Sure, it's possible to configure many receiving SMTP
> servesr to require it from specific sending systems and / or sending
> domains. But this is effort you have to expend to enact these restrictions.

yes.  smtp is nasty, and also redundant.

makes me wonder if i should just create me a
hidden tor service that is just a normal website,
and give its url to people (instead of email) who
want to message me by telling them ``submit your
messages to me''.  then, verify messages by
mailing their supplied email a confirmation
message.


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