On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:43:02 BST Dale wrote:
> Wols Lists wrote:
> > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote:
> >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™
> >>> (which is
> >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad
> >>> experience
> >>> in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by
> >>> gamers and
> >>> number crunchers. On-board graphics are just fine for Desktop and even
> >>> (very) light gaming and they lower power draw considerably. Give it
> >>> a swirl,
> >>> maybe you like it. 😄 Both Intel and AMD work just fine with the kernel
> >>> drivers.
> >> 
> >> Well, for one, I usually upgrade the video card several times before I
> >> upgrade the mobo.  When it is built in, not a option.  I think I'm on my
> >> third in this rig.  I also need multiple outputs, two at least.  One for
> >> monitor and one for TV.  My little NAS box I'm currently using is a Dell
> >> something.  The video works but it has no GUI.  At times during the boot
> >> up process, things don't scroll up the screen.  I may be missing a
> >> setting somewhere but when it blanks out, it comes back with a different
> >> resolution and font size.  I figure it is blanking during the switch.
> >> My Gentoo box doesn't do that.  I can see the screen from BIOS all the
> >> way to when it finishes booting and the GUI comes up.  I'm one of those
> >> who watches.  😉
> > 
> > Well, in my case I've only recently upgraded to a system where AGPUs
> > are available :-)
> > 
> > Plus, although I haven't got it working, I want multi-seat (at
> > present, my system won't boot with two video cards). You can run
> > multi-head off integrated graphics, but as far as I know linux
> > requires one video card per seat.
> > 
> > Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, you can combine a video card and
> > an AGPU.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Wol
> 
> I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature.  Just to get rough
> ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4.  Yea, I
> did a copy and paste.  lol  It's a bit pricey but compared to my current
> rig, I think it will run circles around it.  My current rig has a AMD FX
> -8350 Eight-Core Processor running at 4GHz or so.  You think I'll see
> some speed improvement or am I on the wrong track?

You should see a significant improvement.  The 5900X boosts up to 4.9GHz and 
it has 24 threads.

> I'm also shooting
> for 64GBs of memory at first.  I can put in two more sticks later.  I
> got 32GB right now.  Thing is, I have 18 virtual desktops now.  o_O 
> 
> My problem is the mobo.  I need a few PCIe slots.  Most just don't have
> enough.  Most have a slot for a video card.  Then maybe 2 other slightly
> slower ones and maybe one slow one.  I can't recall what the names are
> at the moment. I know the length of the connector tends to tell what
> speed it is, tho some cheat and put long connectors but most of the
> faster pins aren't used.  That confuses things.  Anyway, mobo, which I
> will likely change, CPU and memory is already adding up to about $600. 
> I don't need much of a video card tho.  The built in thing may be
> enough, as long as I can connect my monitor and TV.  Either one DB15 and
> a HDMI or two HDMI will work.  My monitor has both.  TV is HDMI.  Must
> have TV!!
> 
> If someone knows of a good mobo, Gigabyte, ASUS preferred, that has
> several PCIe slots, I'd like to know the model so I can check into it. 
> It's doesn't have to be the latest thing either.  I tend to drop down
> several notches from the top to save money.  I still end up with a
> pretty nice rig and save some money.

What you describe looks more like a workstation or server tower MoBo, rather 
than the current brood of retail MoBos which cater more for gaming.

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