On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk>
> 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
> >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems
> >> a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't understand.
> > 
> > That just shows that they are still partially dependent on the DE, KMail
> > also needs various KDE libraries. KDE was designed as a cohesive DE, not
> > just a bunch of applications with a common look and feel. KDE apps are
> > intended to be run on a KDE desktop, anything else is a nice bonus.
> 
> Indeed, and it is a noble pursuit.
> But from a marketing aspect, it would make more sense to have things that
> aren't -vital- for the app, unlike kde-libs in this case, to be soft (is
> this the correct term?) dependencies.
> Both aspects could be satisfied by having symantic-desktop as an optional
> dep. It's not a vital function for kmail to be able to tag and index all
> the files on the computer (which is what the symantic-desktop does if I
> understand correctly), it's a nifty thing for KDE users, and soon probably
> Gnome users as well, but for anyone else, it's a nifty thing -if- they
> feel the need for it. Much like most other bits of software :-)
> 
> In the end there isn't a right or wrong, but just a standpoint. Some don't
> mind the bloat (we can agree that it's bloat if you're just going to
> disable the function as soon as it's been installed, right?) and don't
> consider it to be the slightest bit akin to bloat, whilst to others it's
> an unnecessary feature forced on them (mainly thinking of the people not
> using kde, but also those kde-users that just disable it) and thus becomes
> bloat.

and luckily for you, there are a lot of 'soft' dependencies. kmail does not 
force you to install konqueror. It does not force you to install plasma-
desktop or systemsettings. It does not force you to install the printing 
manager .... 

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