IN RESPONSE to "Photoshop like" idea : "... it should not look like Photoshop" -> SHOULD NEVER LOOK LIKE Photoshop - because Photoshop even with the new UI additions on CS3 look horrible - GUI for *Smurfs*.
I see noone talk here about Corel Draw or Corel Photopaint GUI. For a new user, from the second 2 or 3 - it become clear who, why, when, where and how ( ...the last is a joke - "how" become clear after some mounts ot years depend on client material ;) ). In fact Corel GUI should give the base idea not PhotoShop ( in case if someone should give an ideea ) - I remember my first days on Corel, I was able to create my workspaces - with my floating or docked toolbars - with my prefered buttons - with my icons ( yep you can edit icons for buttons ), and to customize 500% more options than Photoshop. Then I ask myself ( for the first time - what is so great about Photoshop ?? [v.5 I think...]). Enfin, Ek kian - GIMP had a GUI Team now. Professionals. They work on GUI specs for the new GIMP and finally, I think the GIMP GUI will be OK anyway - with or without our opinions. If you go to http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ you will see - before you - some 1000 other guys think / talk about exactly the same things. Ro be clean - exactly the same things. But their list is open and is never complete... THERE on brainstorm.org this discussion should take place - not HERE. Therefore I am designer too ( with some GUI Design knowledge - I won my money from such kind of things) - so I have 1507 or 1509 ideas right now - just try to imagine I'll post all 1507 or 1509 mails to THIS mailing list. The list wil become "the SorinN's list" ( they will do a sucesfull movie after few years [ 50 to be precise and ...damn I like that dream.. ] ). And GIMP will become ...maybe a simple text editor, even without syntax checker because the mailing list go in Abstract, unified with The Force... and all peoples, actors, singers, developers, detectives, criminals, etc - will loose any interest on GIMP development ( because of my GUI novels with much more eyeappeal than the boring if / else / while / for statements ). I hope you got the point - because I have to go to work. See ya later - on brainstorm.org. 2008/8/27 Ek kian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with you, Alexia. > maybe we can also look at Macromedia user interface, such as: Flash, > Fireworks or Dreamweaver UI, their UI is different from Photoshop but still > easy to learn, simple to manage, and extensible. Even i think Macromedia > have better UI than Adobe. > > this is my suggestions for new GIMP default layout, i don't go to specific > layout but i only have few things that imo need to give more attentions: > > - Big Workspace > Graphics artist need a Big Workspace, just imagine our monitor as the > canvas then users will want it all screen area is available as work area if > possible so imo toolbox should be as small as possible and tool options > should be able to hide and show using one-click or one-shortcut. > > - Workspace layout dialog > Workspace layout with keyboards shortcut also can be saved and load with > simple dialog with some presets (ready to use layout or default layout), so > artist only need to setup the workspace and shortcuts that he comfortable > and can bring that settings to other computer easily. Default layout is > useful for education process which need consistent UI that will make easier > to remember for the first time learner and if accidentally changed by user, > we can easily put it back to the default layout. > > - Workflows. > This is one thing that almost invisible on the programs UI, but if we > carefully look at programs with great UI that surely for every aspect of the > UI is tweaked to produce faster step to be done for all common workflows for > every users. Common workflows only can be asked to the users that using the > programs a lot and this users usually use it for their daily professional > jobs, for example: photographer, they have "photo post-processing or raw > workflow", web designer, they have "web layouting and slicing workflow", > design graphic, they have "color preparation and color separation workflow", > and many more others. > > So every single UI elements such as icon, menu, shortcuts, etc is tweaked > to improve how faster the workflows can be done, for example: if user doing > selection then usually there is couple operation that follow that selection > process so after the selection finish the mouse cursor change to move mode > and right-click menu will show operation such as: cut, copy, delete or move. > This need context menu feature, menu that can be changed based on activated > tool. > > regards, > ek kian > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Alexia Death <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On Saturday 23 August 2008 22:51:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > that's the second time you propose "familiarity" for a first time user. >> >> > How can a first time user be familiar with anything? Or is this another >> >> > "Gimp should look and behave like Photoshop" proposal? >> >> No it should not look like Photoshop. First time user is just as likely to >> be >> unfamiliar with Photoshop as Gimp. What it wuld not hurt to look like a >> bit is >> Inkscape and yes, im horrified to say, MS Paint. Both have similar >> toolboxes. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gimp-developer mailing list >> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > > -- Nemes Ioan Sorin
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