One of the other options is to start with ubuntu server (
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server). It will give you a very clean
starting point and you can just install what you actually need. I don't use
Unity, so I never start with that. I tend to lean towards XFCE or i3. If
you're more comfortable with the RH/CentOS ecosystem, then Fedora Core is a
solid choice. I believe that's what Linus Torvalds uses.

     - Chris

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote:

> I've tended to use CentOS for the server; at work they want RHEL and
> support.  With CentOS 5 and 6, I've found the desktop widgets to be
> lagging.  With Ubuntu (and Mint and other derivatives) there tend to be
> more desktop tools and they're kept up to date.  Everything is an apt-get
> install away.
>
> On my desktop, I want to play videos, music, talk to a sound card,
> graphics card, office suites, IDEs.  I don't need that on my servers and
> it's ok if things are a bit behind.
>
> I'd check out Mint as an alternative to Ubuntu before going to a CentOS
> desktop.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Richard Kolb II <richard.k...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not exactly related, but I just switched from windows 7 on my primary
>> machine to Ubuntu 16.x LTS. I found it horribly slow, which surprised me
>> considering it's a faster machine, more ram, and an SSD, over my 14.x LTS
>> machine. I then tried Ubuntu Mate and I may just jump over to Centos.
>>
>> Maybe I need to poke at what services I have running first.
>>
>>
>> Richard Kolb II
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been working with CentOS 6/7 based Openstack but have some Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I prefer the 16.x Ubuntu with SystemD to Upstart.  I've found it
>>> easier to learn with CentOS man pages than Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> I end up using service and chkconfig to start/stop and enable/disable.
>>>
>>> I've found initctl for Upstart vs systemctl for systemd.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio <k...@jots.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe Ubuntu is perhaps one of the lesser-used distros in GNHLUG
>>>> land, but I'm hoping someone here might be able to offer some insight.
>>>>
>>>> I've got an Openstack install on Ubuntu 14.04 host systems, and after a
>>>> hurricane-induced power outage over the weekend, one of our hosts won't
>>>> boot -- it fails (seemingly) at loading an Openstack Neutron service.
>>>> So, I figure I'll go into /etc/init.d/ and just chmod -x all the suspect
>>>> services, see if it boots, and then manually load services.  Not so
>>>> much; that had zero apparent impact on the services loading.
>>>>
>>>> So then I did some reading up on Upstart, and found a whole bunch of
>>>> places that the services *might* be loading from... none of which seemed
>>>> to impact stuff.  I currently have the host booted by some serious
>>>> cheating (I pulled a disk, went to "manual repair mode" when it whined
>>>> about not being able to mount devices, and loaded services from there --
>>>> it completely fails to boot single-user), but how in blazes do I:
>>>>
>>>> * See what services want to be loaded?
>>>> * See *where* they get loaded?
>>>> * Load them individually?
>>>>
>>>> I've found some of the services mentioned in /etc/init/, /etc/init.d/,
>>>> /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/, /lib/systemd/system/,
>>>> /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/ and
>>>> /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/multi-user.target.wants/ .
>>>> I tried playing around with most (all?) of those locations, to no avail.
>>>>   Any insight into what I'm doing wrong would truly be most appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -Ken
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