I was extremely annoyed yesterday that updating ubuntu was taking so long for such a small number of things. I suspect it was their servers more than anything.
I'm giving UbuntuMate a try, it's been so long since I setup a personal machine I don't recall everything that I removed from my last one. I'll have to spend some time cleaning things up. I swear though, mate on my rpi3 seemed faster. Rich Richard Kolb II On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Chris Linstid <clins...@gmail.com> wrote: > One of the other options is to start with ubuntu server ( > http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server). It will give you a very clean > starting point and you can just install what you actually need. I don't use > Unity, so I never start with that. I tend to lean towards XFCE or i3. If > you're more comfortable with the RH/CentOS ecosystem, then Fedora Core is a > solid choice. I believe that's what Linus Torvalds uses. > > - Chris > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote: > >> I've tended to use CentOS for the server; at work they want RHEL and >> support. With CentOS 5 and 6, I've found the desktop widgets to be >> lagging. With Ubuntu (and Mint and other derivatives) there tend to be >> more desktop tools and they're kept up to date. Everything is an apt-get >> install away. >> >> On my desktop, I want to play videos, music, talk to a sound card, >> graphics card, office suites, IDEs. I don't need that on my servers and >> it's ok if things are a bit behind. >> >> I'd check out Mint as an alternative to Ubuntu before going to a CentOS >> desktop. >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Richard Kolb II <richard.k...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Not exactly related, but I just switched from windows 7 on my primary >>> machine to Ubuntu 16.x LTS. I found it horribly slow, which surprised me >>> considering it's a faster machine, more ram, and an SSD, over my 14.x LTS >>> machine. I then tried Ubuntu Mate and I may just jump over to Centos. >>> >>> Maybe I need to poke at what services I have running first. >>> >>> >>> Richard Kolb II >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote: >>> >>>> I've been working with CentOS 6/7 based Openstack but have some Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> FWIW, I prefer the 16.x Ubuntu with SystemD to Upstart. I've found it >>>> easier to learn with CentOS man pages than Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> I end up using service and chkconfig to start/stop and enable/disable. >>>> >>>> I've found initctl for Upstart vs systemctl for systemd. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio <k...@jots.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe Ubuntu is perhaps one of the lesser-used distros in GNHLUG >>>>> land, but I'm hoping someone here might be able to offer some insight. >>>>> >>>>> I've got an Openstack install on Ubuntu 14.04 host systems, and after a >>>>> hurricane-induced power outage over the weekend, one of our hosts won't >>>>> boot -- it fails (seemingly) at loading an Openstack Neutron service. >>>>> So, I figure I'll go into /etc/init.d/ and just chmod -x all the >>>>> suspect >>>>> services, see if it boots, and then manually load services. Not so >>>>> much; that had zero apparent impact on the services loading. >>>>> >>>>> So then I did some reading up on Upstart, and found a whole bunch of >>>>> places that the services *might* be loading from... none of which >>>>> seemed >>>>> to impact stuff. I currently have the host booted by some serious >>>>> cheating (I pulled a disk, went to "manual repair mode" when it whined >>>>> about not being able to mount devices, and loaded services from there >>>>> -- >>>>> it completely fails to boot single-user), but how in blazes do I: >>>>> >>>>> * See what services want to be loaded? >>>>> * See *where* they get loaded? >>>>> * Load them individually? >>>>> >>>>> I've found some of the services mentioned in /etc/init/, /etc/init.d/, >>>>> /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/, /lib/systemd/system/, >>>>> /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/ and >>>>> /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/multi-user.target.wants/ . >>>>> I tried playing around with most (all?) of those locations, to no >>>>> avail. >>>>> Any insight into what I'm doing wrong would truly be most >>>>> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> -Ken >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >>>>> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>>>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >>>> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >>> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> >> >
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