I'm not finding that running the server is a burden. However I found
procedure of manually patching server mods quite cumbersome.

I also feel that I have to point out that I did too ask on allied mods
before emailing this list [0]. But then again, I'm not sure how everyday
issues/queries doesn't pass under the topic of:
*for discussion of windows server issues* [1]

However quibbling over such bagatelles was not the reason I turned to this
list. I only wanted to write software, not start a war.

So understand me right when I say that I would prefer to have minimal
dependencies for this software. It is only natural that if the facilities
exist within the standard TF2 server installation that those would be the
ones used. As with any software the smaller the dependency list the less
the software is exposed to changes within its dependencies. And I imagine,
though I could be completely wrong about this, that the console commands
are quite stable, not changing much from version to version.

So if we return to the question at hand: It is true as William tells it
that there is no way of determining which team, RED or BLU, one, many or
all players on a server is fighting for using the built in commands of the
TF2 server?

[0] https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=252620
[1] https://list.valvesoftware.com/

2014-12-07 22:10 GMT+01:00 Anthony James Duncan <anth...@kinevonetwork.com>:

> Don’t run a server if you find it a burden. The only way you are going to
> work out how things work is by running a test environment and trying it
> yourself if you need help after that by all means. Also try and use the
> alliedmodders forum by no means is it a way of guaranteed support but it
> keeps this mailing list clear of everyday issues/queries.
>
>
>
> *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Rovanion Luckey
> *Sent:* 07 December 2014 19:44
> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Listing players and team membership on a TF2 server
>
>
>
> Of course, assuming that I have sourcemod installed which I don't. But as
> I explained due to the maintenance burden of keeping the mods up to date
> without any package manager to go with the mods it's something I'd rather
> be without if I don't absolutely have to.
>
>
>
> 2014-12-07 19:18 GMT+01:00 Eli Witt <eliw...@gmail.com>:
>
> I'm fairly certain using the @red and @blue targets will work, but you
> could have just tried in the console instead of posting and waiting around
> for replies on a mailing list, too.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Rovanion Luckey <rovanion.luc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> So neither the default TF2-server nor sourcemod provides a way to
> distinguish if a player is on the RED or the BLU team?
>
>
>
> 2014-12-07 3:17 GMT+01:00 William Pickard <lollol22...@gmail.com>:
>
> No, you need a custom built plugin that acts like the status command but
> prints out players + team their on
>
> On 2014-12-06 7:19 PM, "Rovanion Luckey" <rovanion.luc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I tried installing that a couple of weeks ago. Long story short I got a
> segfault because the stable version was not compatible with the TF2 server
> and manually keeping meta- and sourcemod up to date seemed like more effort
> than it was worth. I guess I've been spoilt by package managers.
>
> So does sourcemod provide a console command which does this. I see there
> is a concept of targets; would I write something along the lines of "sm_who
> @red" ?
>
>
>
> 2014-12-07 1:00 GMT+01:00 William Pickard <lollol22...@gmail.com>:
>
> Sourcemod plugin will help
>
>
> On 2014-12-06 5:56 PM, "Rovanion Luckey" <rovanion.luc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm running a TF2 server and want to list the players currently playing
> on the server along with the team they're on through the rcon console. I
> want to use this information to write a small program which moves players
> around in mumble to the appropriate channel for their team. But that's
> besides the point.
> >
> > The "status" command does list every player and a bunch of interesting
> information, but not which team they're in. My question is: Is it possible
> to list every player on the server along with the name of the team they're
> currently in?
> >
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